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What would the world be like if everyone was single?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,622 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I might get the ride if it was the case...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭dickdasr1234


    Love all the stuff about relationships providing support and intimacy.

    Mine literally put me in the funny farm.

    I couldn't see the wood for the trees.

    And she divorced me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭iniscealtra


    You would need almost twice the amount of housing. If everyone was single there would be no cohabiting couples. Parenting would be a lot harder for many people as having someone else to take the slack and give you a break is great as is someone to back you up discipline wise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭89897


    Nothing but happiness comes from within (or at least its meant to) I was happy when I was single and im happy in a relationship. You seem to be linking relationships with what intrinsically makes us happy or unhappy.

    Relationships can be a source of happiness or unhappiness but they shouldnt be the source of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Not what I was saying to be honest. what I meant was would they be better off single or in a relationship.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭orourkeda1


    Instead of being single, I wonder what would happen if people that are in bad, toxic, unfulfilling or otherwise poor relationships just left.

    I know so many people that are in unhappy and unhealthy situations because they believe it's better than being alone which is mind boggling to me.

    I've been single for years now and it suits me and I'll only start a new relationship for Love. No point otherwise. I've stayed in crap situations for all sorts of wrong reasons and it's miserable.

    https://www.orourkeda.blog



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,032 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    If you want to be single be single, if you want to be in a relationship and are lucky enough to find one then great. I don’t get the debate as to which is better - people should just do whatever they want. It’s natural for humans to want to belong, and a relationship for many of us is part of that - so I don’t buy the theory that everybody secretly wants to be single.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Kurooi


    I'm quite confused by assumptions about the economics of a couple. Single people would go out more, have more holidays, and have more money to spend? How exactly are coupled off people burning their cash?

    I for one can say being in a relationship makes me pay more attention to other relationships. Friends, family, work, community. I don't think I'd bother if I was single, I'm pretty sure I'd be an anti social shut in. It seems many people gravitate towards that once they had enough fun and games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭89897


    But in your opening post you spoke about happiness. What do you mean by better off? You listed things that you dont like in a relationship but seem to be projecting that thats what most people would actually want if push came to shove without giving any more than your own personal feeling.

    The economics of it dont really make sense as they apply now as two people in a household make it cheaper than one. Everything would be on the individuals terms and I dont even know how raising a child would be so im not seeing how most would be better off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,032 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Yeah most would not be better off - two people paying rent / mortgage and sharing electricity bills : car etc is obviously cheaper for both. And single people often going out to pubs more, increasing that social cost.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    This isnt a thread about deciding which is better, its just a question about what it would be like if most people stayed single.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,032 ✭✭✭YellowLead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Not really, usually in these kind of threads you would get people who are married or in a couple coming in getting offended at the thought of everyone being single and start insulting people but that hasn't really happened which is nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    I said would that make them happier or not? its just a question about which would be better for most people.

    I did say I prefer being single in the OP but I know not everyone would feel the same.

    I honestly do believe most people get married because they think that is what you are supposed to do but dont really question if its smart to do so.

    Look at all the couples who divorce and separate now, some after only 2 or 3 year marriage.

    maybe the majority staying single will become the norm sometime, who knows, id be interested to see how that world looks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    But that's assuming there are no dependents involved.

    It fine being single on your own, but being a single parent is not easy.

    And in this zero relationship world people might be single but that doesn't mean they won't have depeneds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭89897


    I understand that but what im questioning is why you believe that? You have a belief and it must be based on something. To be honest I dont see all these couples breaking up and divorcing all round me. Some do but its definitely not the majority. Im not talking these fake hollywood couples in talking real life people around me.

    I know people that are incredibly happy single and have no interest in getting into a relationship but they arent the majority by far. I also know people that are staying in a bad situation because of the optics but thats also by far not the majority. Thats what im basing my side on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    a lot of riding, resulting in some seriously fcuked up people.....

    ...similar to now i guess, but different, just different fcuked up....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,851 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    We are a nasty species that thanks to our intelligence has developed efficient ways (e.g. firearms) to harm and kill each other. Without the civilising effect of relationships and some level of monogamy, we would revert to animalistic behaviours and destroy ourselves, A small number of dominant males would be boning left, right and centre. Informal harems would be normalised. At any given time 95% of men would not be getting laid. Significant numbers would be motivated to kill to change that. Violence, rape and murder rates would be through the roof.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Fair enough, I have seen a lot of couples locally to me, their marriages over and they aren't even 40 yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...we ve made a right bollcoks of modern society, we ve placed so much pressure on people, theyre simply unable to maintain their relationships....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    If prostitution was legal then there would be no need to kill anyone. not that I think the world would be like mad max if most people were single.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    one of the most obvious problems in all of this is how fcuked up our property markets have become, security of accommodation is a critical human need, we ve created the almost complete opposite situation, in regards our property markets, more and more are starting to seriously struggle to meet this need, this in turn places major pressures upon relationships, add in other serious life stresses, other rising precarities, and you ve got yourself the perfect situation for a relationship destroyer....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yes but people had hard lives before the property shortage, a lot harder, no foreign holidays, new cars, nights out in fancy restaurants, weekends away, any of that and they didn't split up before they were even 40. They were more resilient back then though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,299 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    previous generations had different issues, compared to now generations, they didnt have the opportunities and options, those mentioned simply didnt exist for most, elements of their lives certainly were harder, but they lived a far more simpler life, far more basic, these differences make comparisons between generations almost meaningless, the simply cannot be compared....

    getting access to critical human needs was potential 'easier', its very difficult to find the right terms for such, for older generations, as major acts such as providing security of accommodation, has never been easy, but now its quickly becoming impossible for more and more, we re experiencing a catastrophic failure now, in regards meeting these critical needs.

    work contracts are now becoming more and more precarious, costs of living, to help met critical needs, have been rapidly rising, and in a very short space of time, yet income has not been rising as fast, in order to meet these needs, all leading to overall rising precarities, and subsequent anxieties, and other relatively serious mental health issues, depression etc etc

    ...all of the above. and more, is now leading to a break down in the abilities to maintain functioning relationships....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭89897


    This is true if anything I think the housing problems force more people to stay together who shouldn't. I dont agree though that people were more resiliant back then I think they had less choices.

    If anything back then more people coupled up and stayed together just because it was the done thing and stayed together when they shouldnt have. Now its way more acceptable to be single older, women work and have their own money, men dont need to be the sole breadwinner etc. There was no fancy holidays, nights out, cars etc because there was no money for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    It is still the done thing to couple up though. Was talking to a guy who was about to get married one night, he said im fcuked now anyway, actually thats the last thing I will be if I get married I suppose. I was thinking, well why are you doing it so?



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