RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

odyssey06 · 20-08-2023 05:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004189#Comment_121004189

It's an interesting theory, but I don't think it was a grand plan by the board.

There was a changing of CFO, and the financial chicanery \ barter account manipulations employed by the previous leadership seems to have caught the new CFO unawares.

Also, the auditors may not have picked up on it only two €75,000 payments were processed together which as a larger amount came under scrutiny.

squonk · 20-08-2023 05:31PM

I can’t see RT becoming president now, or maybe yet but with his connections I wouldn’t be surprised if he wrangled a senate seat. The seanaid has always been either a pity fûck for people who lost their TD seat and might get it back next time out or a retirement home for the lads who were stepping back from the full TD role. For the younger crowd it was a chance to build s reputation and name without being at rush of doing any real damage, kind of training wheels and then for others it was just s as sindcure allowing them to escape the real world and responsibilities, never having to do ram queen and knowing their various electorate bodies would return them teen after term. I could see Tubbs getting in on that lever, even better it’s the kind of place he could feel intellectual and hid himself he’s making a difference while actually doing nothing but connecting a paycheck. I could absolutely see him landing that with his connections and his pseudo aspirations.

cmac2009 · 20-08-2023 05:43PM

Is his time at RTE over or is he just on an extended break now, and will be back in some role in the future?

20-08-2023 05:47PM

It's a breathtaking sight to behold the level of power Noel Kelly had in RTE. What is underpinning that? How did one man who appeared unremarkable by all accounts get that level of power unchecked?

There is still something missing here for me. How did he swan is way into these circles, what did he bring to the table to obtain the ear of people that they were basically going to at great lengths to put their careers on the line over it?

Brendan Bendar · 20-08-2023 05:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004070#Comment_121004070

On your first paragraph I totally agree about O’hEadhra but would implicate the producers as well.

They have destroyed the programme.

On the other issue I feel KB was very cool and evenhanded when coming under very hostile questioning from McInerney on PT. Didn’t wear the tie which I thought was a master stroke and put McInerney back on her heels with the swift confident and straight talking replies to the questions he got.

Time will tell if he can achieve REAL CHANGE in that gaff.

It won’t be easy. Lot of big beasts with deep connections out there

yagan · 20-08-2023 05:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004206#Comment_121004206

Wasn't it the board that chose to make it public knowledge?

To me the timing suggests that the disclosure which went against the old cosy RTE shuffle culture was unavoidable. I reckon Tubridy's biggest problem as an RTE creation is his incomprehension that revenue loss change is actually happening.

Keilty knows that a contractor shouldn't presume renewal with the client, hence the upfront declaring of fees for his contract.

When change is coming then it's better to cut losses to stay ahead of that change. Tubridy's whole manner suggests he never really believed he's ever really have to take a cut, which goes to my theory that the disclosure by the board was a last straw with him.

HildaOgdenx · 20-08-2023 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004291#Comment_121004291

Bakhurst said, the night he was on the news and on Prime Time, that the door was still open. He refused - rightly in my opinion - to put a timeframe on any return in the future.

But since then Tubridy - or his circle - seem to have said some fairly hostile stuff along the lines of Bakhurst never intending to have him return in the first place. I think that's the gist of a piece that was linked on here last night from the Sindo's Twitter account.

tobefrank321 · 20-08-2023 06:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004070#Comment_121004070

There's a grand total of 3 NKM clients on the 2FM 6-9am show, on a loss making station.

Bakhurst has a big job ahead rooting out NKM's tenticles from RTE but it has to be done. He should just issue a blanket ban on working with NKM and let clients decide if they want to stay or go.

20-08-2023 06:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004062#Comment_121004062

Called “giving enough rope” 😁🤣

Gadgetman496 · 20-08-2023 06:25PM

NK has updated the pictures on his front page, and even has a pic of the RTE Guide there now.

https://www.nkmanagement.ie/

odyssey06 · 20-08-2023 06:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004336#Comment_121004336

If you had been following the PAC hearings, I don't think that is how things played out at all.

Once it had been queried by the auditors, a chain of events had been set in motion.

Now Bakhurst at this point may have taken the opportunity to lay down the marker so to speak.

RoTelly · 20-08-2023 06:33PM

David Nally, exits RTÉ, he was their Director of Contents chief advisor. Jim Jennings, Director of Content, is out sick, somethings going around.

Nally was moved for News & CA (Bakhurst chief advisor when he was there) following complaints from a journalist), a sideways move.

Nally wrote a letter to the Times following an article by Justine McCarthy.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/2023/07/08/former-rte-head-replies-to-coverage/

Furze99 · 20-08-2023 06:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004449#Comment_121004449

Impression I had from recent interviews is that Jennings is actually ill but is keen to give his side of things when back in the pink.

The others claiming to be ill I don't think will come forward with information unless they are forced to. For people given high paying executive jobs like that, it's an absolute disgrace and shows that they were ill fitted for the roles in the first place. It reflects very badly on them. In fact I'd go further and say it really undermines the campaign to put more women on boards and in senior positions.

The can has been kicked over and I think quite a bit more is going to tumble out.

Furze99 · 20-08-2023 06:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004253#Comment_121004253

You well be right about Ryan's future - appointments to some state boards and a seat in the senate. That's where all the boring old farts go when their careers are over, so he'll be well suited there and can waffle away without bothering us.

No way though to the Aras - burnt too many bridges there.

Oscar_Madison · 20-08-2023 07:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004508#Comment_121004508

If none of this sho1te happened though, but yet he still gave up TLLS earlier this year, just what exactly was his future game plan?

RoTelly · 20-08-2023 07:06PM

https://extra.ie/2023/08/20/news/irish-news/virgin-media-tubridy

Ballymount not interested stating "For a start, what would he do?", showing their lack of imagination.

Though in fairness VMTV can look to their experience with Pat Kenny.

Oscar_Madison · 20-08-2023 07:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004253#Comment_121004253

But for one thing- Ryan isn’t “intellectual” - he has absolutely no track record of news analysis, critique or journalism behind him- Kenny did- he made his name as a serious broadcaster and was eventually awarded with his own chat show- I’d say RTÉ reluctantly gave him TLLS but he didn’t “break” it and anyway Byrne was a very hard act to follow- he got out at the right time and his place in broadcasting history is “safe” .

Tubridy? Jayzuz- where do you start.

Agent Coulson · 20-08-2023 07:11PM

What does he actually offer another radio station or TV channel in Ireland that they don't already have with better people working for them.

Name value maybe before the payment scandal however his name value is in the toilet now.

Podcasting is where it will be for him and if he draws numbers one of the commercial channels may see some value in hiring him as a talking head.

Oscar_Madison · 20-08-2023 07:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004561#Comment_121004561

Talk to Harry and Meaghan about “pod-casting” - you’re only in demand as long as people

like you and
you’ve something interesting people want to hear or listen to. they’ve failed on both counts

LambshankRedemption · 20-08-2023 07:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004078#Comment_121004078

And he made this statement in the middle of negotiating his return to the airwaves. Instead of waiting until the negotiations were complete.

jmcc · 20-08-2023 07:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004426#Comment_121004426

Hasn't updated Tubridy's page yet.

https://www.nkmanagement.ie/ryan-tubridy---profile.html

The Sindo/Indo mentioned that the great purge of Tubridy on RTE begins tomorrow.

Regards...jmcc

podgeandrodge · 20-08-2023 07:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004502#Comment_121004502

As someone else said, the "people in the know" like the RTE board, welcomed Dee Forbes as a "visionary"! as they lauded her as the first woman director general of RTE. I suspect that if it was a man, we'd have heard more about the need for a woman to do it properly!

squonk · 20-08-2023 07:48PM

He has to go away and remake himself. I don’t see any of the informant operators taking him on. VM are likely right. What would they do with him? I don’t watch much of their output but they already have their own people in place.

Let’s look at the previous LLS presenters. Gay would have been a minor coup The any independents. So much so RTE pays him to enjoy his retirement and not be available for anywhere else to take him on. Pat Kenny, love him or hate him, has a great track record as a C political presenter. It’s where he’s most comfortable and is value for money really. Now, Tubbs. Promoted beyond his meagre abolition. Made a balls of TLLS. Then got the plum G Ryan slog after his demise, made a balls of that and got parachuted back to R1 for an hour long morning show. Again, made a balls of that as well and couldn’t even manage to make a handy hour long slot interesting in any way. So, really, as an independent who has to raise their own revenue from output, what exactly are you paying for with RT?

He needs to go do a podcast but completely rebuild. Learn his craft and learn to do research and learn the art of interviewing. Either that or find a niche he excels at and double down in that. He might then have soldering that would attract an independent. His safety net is gone. The days when he could phone it in and be mediocre but still get saved are gone. Time to put on the big boy boots and take his career seriously and put the work in. It’s not easy at his stage in life but he’s just that bit too young to call it quits.

Bass Reeves · 20-08-2023 07:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004561#Comment_121004561

Problem with podcasting is a serious amount of RT's audience is older listeners. How do you transfer or enable them to listen. Nobody is getting 150k+ a year from podcasting in Ireland I think

fritzelly · 20-08-2023 07:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004549#Comment_121004549

America or the Beeb it is for him then, bye bye - did anyone seriously think he was gonna get picked up by an Irish media company

RoTelly · 20-08-2023 07:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004653#Comment_121004653

VMTV could take the TLLS and put it on Saturday night, but its unlikely to work because VMTV don't have any other Irish programming that could surround Tubrity Tonight. The other option would be to give him a late night chat show at 11pm following The Tonight Show.

It is more to do with the life cycle of Bauer and Virgin Media TV.

Bauer is now on course to retain audience across its suite of Radio stations, PK has done his job in this respect, I don't see anyone of note replacing him when he decides to retire. Today FM have Ian Dempsey and have a good strong schedule across the day, and Tubs would not fit on this schedule.

VMTV meanwhile really have been in the same life cycle since it established as TV3, "maintain our regulatory requirements for Irish programming after all we have coro st and some sport". VMTV fired a hosts of presenters and replaced them with Tommy Bowe, he didn't come on board for small change.

selectamatic · 20-08-2023 08:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121003113#Comment_121003113

To lump teachers into this mess by means of a comparison takes some doing, even accounting for the ingrained hatred of the everyday public sector worker some people have.

Wage cuts, two tier pay packages and a pull the ladder up behind us thought process with regards to pensions has the everyday public sector work conditions where they are now. Damn near ruined.

No one wants to be a teacher in a big urban area because they can't have a decent standard of living doing so, the guards can't recruit enough suitable candidates and Drew Harris hasn't a bulls notion what he's at, the country can't hold onto nurses because they'll have a far better pay, hours and over all a far better standard of living in another country, all the while the HSE as a whole is creaking and faltering despite being funded to the last.

Tubridy, and rte upper management are much more comparable to the upper management throughout the public sector/ civil service, semi state CEO's and indeed some of the union CEO's.

Problem being, it's upper management and "stars" soaking up all this "extra" money in the economy while the people who actually make the service possible get less and less.

Your post is akin to the ramblings earlier on in this thread by a certain poster who had a gripe with ESB workers getting suitably paid for being qualified professionals having to work in at times dangerous conditions. It's madness.

Everyday normal people swiping and b1tching at each other while the C suite and stars laugh at us all.

Agent Coulson · 20-08-2023 08:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004658#Comment_121004658

Eamon Dunphy made €100k in 2022.

He made €40k in it's first year.

New accounts filed by Dunphy’s Pepperwort Ltd show that the firm’s 2022 profits of €103,595 is almost three times the profits of €39,508 recorded in 2021.

The podcast generates its revenues from advertisers while subscribers can pay €5 (excluding VAT) per month.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/eamon-dunphys-the-stand-podcast-firm-records-profits-of-e103595-in-2022-1473848.html#:~:text=103%2C595%20last%20year.-,New%20accounts%20filed%20by%20Dunphy's%20Pepperwort%20Ltd%20show%20that%20the,(excluding%20VAT)%20per%20month.

The second captains pod makes about €550k a year split 5 ways.

There is money to be made in the podcast world.

jmcc · 20-08-2023 08:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004725#Comment_121004725

The difference is that these podcasts have interesting hosts and interesting content. Would people pay to hear Tubridy's babbling?

Regards...jmcc

Agent Coulson · 20-08-2023 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121004758#Comment_121004758

That's my original point he doesn't offer anything to commercial channels in Ireland and the only place for him really go in Ireland is the podcast world in the hope he can build an audience that might offer him a chance to get work from the commercial channels.

RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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