Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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Ah you see various people (previous posters here in different guise) comments on the journal, etc, fair few tankies still around.

The only thing I would hope is that this may be playing out a little bit more like just before Russia withdrew from Kherson.

There was some pretty downbeat assessments about the progrees being made then, and Ukrainian losses seemed quite bad. But Ukraine kept wearing away at Russian logistics until Russia was forced to make their withdrawal.

It seems progress is very slow now, but Russia have been loosing significant amounts of artillery, and their logistics again being heavily targeted. Maybe when things get to a certain stage and if they make the breakthrough they need then things may pick up pace much faster.

However I say this more in hope than anything.

The timed incendiary devices used by the IRA within the Russian sate would enought to rattle nerves.

Correct Horse Battery Staple just posted a link ( 100271 ) above, which might start the ball rolling amongst the Oligarchs'.....

Simplicity is best. Dont over complicate it. If businesses were burning all over Russia as in Ukraine there might be a change in public mood.

The mainstream media CNN, Fox and the likes are all about ratings and clicks. Some of the news they sell is of course truthful. But much of it is sensationalist nonsense. If you actually get past the headlines of the article and dig into what they actually say then the articles themselves end up disagreeing with the titles. It nonsense.

Take for example a recent article that was thrust upon us by our misery merchants on the thread.

Look at this headline. It's clearly trying to sell the alarmist idea that everything is awful. The Ukraine counter offensive is failing and Americans on the whole are getting fed up of the war and don't support Ukraine anymore.

However if you take a cursory glance at what the questions asked were this whole notion falls apart. When asked "Should we send MORE aid than we currently are?"

48% : Yes

51% : We've done enough

That is not a simple 51:48/No:Yes ratio. What they're doing is lumping in all the people who say the support for Ukraine is the correct amount with those who wish to decrease it. That is extremely disingenuous. And CNN fucken know it. But the good news headlines don't sell clicks unless the news is extremely dramatic.

Among that 51% of people polled is (and I don't have the figures admittedly , I just don't have the time in the day to be cross referencing this shite) probably again a majority who actually do support monetary and military aid to Ukraine as it stands. Even if it was only another 3%(6% of that half) that would still leave a majority of Americans supporting the current level or MORE aid to Ukraine. And it's almost certainly not gonna be as low as 3%.

But CNN can get away with it. Those with negative biases on here absolutely love soaking up the misery so they can feel vindicated. And those who support Ukraine get worried reading this travesty of reporting in their peripheral vision.

Then of course Russia absolutely love selling this muck back home as a win.

What’s a ‘tankie’ …?

Still some reports coming out of Ukraine pushing miskovytes out of their country and moving forward slowly in places from what I have seen but progress is bound to be slow with the volume of mines deployed by putin's forces. Ukraine seems to be less inclined to use its troops like cannon fodder like putin so a breakthrough is very likely to take time to find. It is a long front line that is being probed for opportunities so I would not be surprised to see news of a breakthrough by Ukraine being found at any time and then it could be a swift colaps of what is left of putin's army in Ukriane. More importantly in my opinion for the long term outcome of the war, the forces of Ukraine seem to be maintaining good levels of attrition on putin's forces which will in time leave them incapable of holding on to the territory of Ukraine that they have tried to occupy:

Russian officials doing dodgy things, well I never.

If everyone is my brother, nobody is my brother. If my brother can invade my home, steal, plunder and rape, then nobody is my brother. Nothing reasonable about it. It strips 'brother' of any meaning.

Of course Russia should be shunned, sanctioned, boycotted.

They shouldn't get to go to sporting events as Team Russia, glorifying their nation, acting as if nothing is happening.

There has to be consequences for this illegal war, for the war crimes and atrocities. Signals from the rest of the world the conduct of their country is unacceptable.

Let's not forget earlier on the thread you were making utterly false insidious both sides comparisons between the 'tactics' of Russia in actively suppressing dissent and social norms in Western societies.

Yes, you were being insidious and continue doing so here with insidious pro-Russian talking points. The 'honesty' of your clarification can be judged here where you directly contradict yourself. Obvious evidence you were spreading insidious anti-Western or pro-Russian cues in the hope it wouldn't be challenged.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120964541/#Comment_120964541

Noted that you entirely dodged the points put to you about boycotts, sporting events, etc.

Again with the insidious pro-Russian utterly false comparisons to Ireland. The IRA were an illegal organisation in the Republic. They tried to assassinate government officials. Russia, official state Russia, is waging war in Ukraine.

Let's be clear on this:

Russia as a country is inflicting war crimes, atrocities, child abuse, murders, executions, deliberate targeting of civilians, threatening Europe with nuclear weapons.

Do you accept without reservation, as a fact, that Russia has carried out those war crimes in its execution of the war?

Do you condemn without reservation such actions by Russia?

And accepting that:

Are Russians supposed to get off scot free and carry on their lives without ANY consequence for all of that?