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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Will ya stop.

    Ukraine faltering to the point Russia get a "win" and then roll on to face the west is a ship that sailed about 4 days after the 24/02/22.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    The western front probably has the biggest placement of active forces since WW2. NATO aren't going to leave themselves short.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    From Feb 22-Mar 22 2022, 15000 protesting Russians were arrested in Moscow. And since then, there has been silent protests in Russian cities, where under the pretext of honoring the war dead by laying flowers at monuments, but they are in reality drawing attention to the war. While abroad, where Russians have settled, Georgia, Lithuania, Berlin, Barcelona, Paris, London, Serbia. have all held protests. Just because you do not hear to much about them now, does not mean that they are not going on. First point ( I've mentioned it before, anyway) Ethnic Russians are far from popular in the Republics. I learned this the hard way in my early days in Russia, when in my innocence, I inadvertedly called a colleague "Russian". I never made that mistake again. I was told in no uncertain terms, not to ever, ever call him a Russian again. 2nd point, Ethnic Russians are even less popular now in the Republics due to Putin definitely biased mobilization plans. So, while Putin has his supporters, there's many who do not agree with or support him, and I know quite a few of them ( I know quite a few of his dedicated followers too) But for sure, its not all cut and dried black and white, all Russians support Putin. They don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    So based on 1 team of Ukrainian soliders who only have 3 drones and raided a Russian trench and found 26 boxes of chinese drones (didn't China recently ban all drone exports?)

    I'd love to know what happened to the Russian soliders.... and were the boxes empty?

    I'm extremely curious what anti artillery equipment Germany has promised that hasn't arrived yet, he only mentions 'stuff like this'.... like what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Judging by the movement on battlefield the Russian unannounced suppliers seem to be more reliable than the west who is losing this important strategic battle their are only so many Ukrainian fighters eventually they will cave

    The west has not woken up when Ukraine and Belarus are gone they will be the next we il nuke you cannon fodder to be thrown at lets denazify Poland

    10 year war ahead

    A no fly zone and a NATO black sea protection fleet Russian stopped surveillance US drone taken out should have being a wake up call

    Russians know article 5 is a joke they have tested it many more times than we know



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Yes that is human nature. Whoever holds the power decides the narrative. At the risk of going off Topic, but to bring it back to the Irish context, it’s similar to how the power of the Irish Catholic Church collapsed in Ireland. Pre 1992/93 the church were still a very powerful force in this country and the general reverence and deference of the 60s/70’s/80’s was still very much in place. It was a feature of many of our childhoods. But look at how quickly that all collapsed in the space of a few short years months even. Suddenly many latent anti church voices appeared in the media who were pretty much silent a few short months before. It wasn’t a gradual process over years. It happened over a space of months around the horrific Brendan smith case and cascaded from there. That’s the way powerful organisations fall asunder. Once some event precipitates a change all those silent voices suddenly feel safe to make their presence known and step out of the shadows. That’s the way it will be with Putins Russia as well it’s just a case of what event or occurrence will precipitate the collapse. But latent / hidden anti Putinism is massive in Russia no doubt and will make its presence known when circumstances allow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    They're doing what Russia always do, and leave a level of ambiguity and plausible deniability...

    There's no going back from a full article 5 trigger, to do so with the incidents we've had so far, would be reckless in mine (and a lot of others) opinions. Article 4 triggering has been the appropriate response so far.

    If article 5 was thought to be such a joke, the Suwałki Gap would have been attacked last year.

    Contrary to the above though, I do think the west can do a lot more, but the entanglement with NATO and the article 5 argument, has actually paralised things a bit. I feel if the likes of Poland or others weren't in NATO, with the threat of article 5 hanging over if attacked, they would have been a bit more all in.... but then you would have had far different tactics from the Russians also with regards to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭rogber


    Very interesting piece on the drone strikes in Moscow and the effect (or lack of it) on the Russian civilian population:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,663 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Although the recent slide is attracting attention, it's interesting to look at the longer term trend.

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    The massive spike at the start of 2022 very visibly indicates the start of the war. After that we see a period of where the ruble traded in a range lower than the long term historical average. Presumably it was being artificially propped up by the Russian Central bank. Since December, it doesn't look like it's been able to continue supporting it.

    Assuming that the ruble value is being determined mainly by free market forces now, it would seem that the economists have a bleak view of Russia's economic future. Many military analysts don't seem to have such a bleak view of the Russian Army's prospects. But I would have thought that the two were interlinked. Without a viable economic future, in the medium to long term the armed forces are going to suffer substantially.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Just before anybody says they don't deal with Dollar anymore which they actually do. The Ruble has dropped a lot over 12 months Vs other currencies too. I check China, India, Britain and eur all major drops. This makes importing more expensive for Russia and ultimately it means they'll burn through their reserves faster and when they do it will be more costly to borrow money.


    Russia really shielded themselves from this war and 18 months in they're still going but give it another year, if the currency keeps dropping they'll not have a good financial outlook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭macraignil


    What delusional world are you living in? The movements on the battlefield since putin initiated a more widespread invasion of Ukraine last year has been for putin's forces to be pushed back from much of the territory they have tried to occupy.

    How do you suggest they now have the force to go on to take on Poland when they have not even been able to maintain the portion of Ukraine that they tried to occupy initially?

    I don't think Ukraine will allow putin's forces to occupy part of their country for ten years and any action putin takes against NATO member states will see an even more rapid elimintion of the threat his terrorist state poses to the rest of the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I agree with you re the Catholic Church, but where it differs from Russia, is that for Putin and Co, their lives depend on strangling dissent at birth, or even before. Had Putin been the head of the Catholic Church, it would still be alive and well and as powerful as ever. And as we have seen, and continue to see Putin is prepared to kill as many as it takes to preserve his own miserable life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    The Kerch bridge may have been hit again, telegram accounts reporting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭IdHidden


    Good point made by the journalist Christo Grozev, the lead Russia investigator at Bellingcat. The Russians want to kill him and he has been forced to move countries to stay safe.

    ”the far right and the far left, which seem to have a near-identical scepticism about the west’s support for Ukraine.

    “The Kremlin discovered a long time ago they could exploit this ‘horseshoe coalition’ [where the extremes meet] by obfuscating the fact that Moscow has a far-right government and there is zero socialism in Russia,” Grozev says. “Socialists around the world seem to be oblivious to that. So they are available for free. We only need to bribe the far right in the west because the left is free. They are still our useful idiots.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt



    The question is it a smoke screen drill. Or smoke screen activated after a successful hit. The black smoke would suggest so. I seen another imagine where there was more black smoke near the bridge but not on it. Maybe an air defence unit or a boat was targeted also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    The black smoke appears to be coming off the bridge, if drones/missiles were shot down then not sure what is causing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's there in other videos of today, seems to be painted white or silver



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭pummice


    Whats the point of smokescreen in trying to deflect a gps guided missile?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Two drones / missiles shot down but bridge not hit, smoke screen activated. So now we know........



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,062 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Panorama shot, am interested what's causing the black smoke (smoke screens are typically white)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Kerch bridge open to traffic again so failed attack.


    In other news Russian mod confirms an SU-30 crashed in Kaliningrad while performing a training flight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    You told me some pages back that the majority of your friends there supported the war, have they all come round now ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Russian SU-30 jet crashed near Kaliningrad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




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