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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,874 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,607 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Probably some of the weekday presenters are on more money given that they present more shows. Ironically, Marty Whelan seems to be the ideal replacement for Tubridy as he's much better at "banter" and appears more natural.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,713 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    This Marty Whelan who was broke a few years ago - RTE really need to start paying the minimum wage - though shouldn't he be retired by now, 65 maximum age to work for RTE unless you get a nice gig of being a contractor and can keep bleeding the public in case someone better comes along that makes you look like an amateur

    Marty Whelan reveals his financial position won't allow him to retire soon - Extra.ie


    This whole thing of when you retire you carry on as a contractor needs to stop as well - get the feck out of here and let someone else have a go



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,607 ✭✭✭jmcc



    That's one of the issues with RTE. Employees may have to retire but contractors are not employees. That means that they can be brought back on contract. In the business world, where accumulated expertise is a good reason for retaining some people on contract, it makes sense. If an audience has demonstrated that it has become used to a presenter then there might be a similar argument for the entertainment business. That doesn't mean that it is right and with an organisation as dysfunctional as RTE, such deals should attract extra scrutiny.

    Whelan's progression from DJ in the 1970s to banter merchant in the 2020s has followed the aging of his (and 2FM's initial) audience. He's also a lot more professionally polished than Tubridy and more suited to the Radio 1 audience. The dumbing down of LyricFM created a kind of competition between Tubridy's show and Whelan's LyricFM show. Both shows go out roughly in the same time slot and have a similar format.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    An interesting audience experiment would be to move Tubridy to Lyric and Marty to RTE Radio 1.

    My strong suspicion would be that Tubs would lose the Lyric audience and Marty would grow the Radio 1 numbers.(a la what happened when PK jumped ship to Newstalk and SO’R grew the audience).

    Hopefully however it won’t happen as Mr. Tubridy’s services should IMO no longer be required..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭hollypink


    Movies and musicals is 3 hours, not 2. And Aedín Gormley presents a second show on a Friday, also 3 hours. I think she is a very good presenter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,156 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    That may well be so, but six figures for a backwater channel……..uhmmmm!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Hmmm. Marty in the morning. Yeah, could work.

    It’s almost a case of Anyone but Ichabod at this stage.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    In a recent Sunday Independent/ Ireland Thinks Poll, it found 38 per cent of those surveyed said they do no want to see the broadcaster back on the show at any stage in the future.

    32 per cent of people said they are not sure whether he should return

    17 per cent said they want him to return immediately.

    11 per cent said they want him to return but in a year

    2 per cent want Tubridy back but longer than year.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭inajock


    According to the Marty Whelan article neither him Joe Duffy or Des Cahill can afford to retire at 66 as they all lost money in the crash. Poor mouth 3 jobs Marty. Louise Duffy also says she can't understand why Ronan collins has the same time slot as her show but on RTE Gold so no retirement there either and on the same bucks you can be sure. Money flooding in and out of Montrose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The NK propaganda is getting a reaction.

    Full-Scale Staff Revolt Warning If Tubridy Back In Frontline Role (extra.ie)

    However, in a shot across the bows of the increasingly embattled Mr Bakhurst, staff in the organisation warned that Mr Tubridy’s return would ‘provoke enormous hostility.’

    One source said: ‘A swift return to where he was would send the clearest of signals to staff that nothing is going to change under Bakhurst – that it is still one rule for the “talent” and an entirely different one for the workhorses, like producers, researchers and cameramen.’

    They said RTÉ ‘is like a tinderbox. Tensions and disillusionment are at an all-time high. It would take very little to start a conflagration.

    'Tubridy swanning back in after a quick apology as though nothing has happened would do it.’

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,576 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The big story this morning is that the RTE staff don't want him back. There will be staff troubles if he returns.

    Full-Scale Staff Revolt Warning If Tubridy Back In Frontline Role (extra.ie)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    The only poll that counts is TV licence renewals and if Tubridy returns and there's no serious reform RTE are on course to lose 36 million Euro in the next year.

    Does Bakhurst even bother looking at the licence fee drop. Doesn't seem like it. He can't be dumb enough to ignore the collapse in income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    Ronan Collins "retired" from RTE Radio 1 and at first you would think that he is putting in more time with his current slot on RTE Gold. His weekday 3 hour mid-morning slot on RTE Gold consists of about 1hour of prerecorded scripted voice links which are then engineered into a 3 hour show**. The amount of time that he puts in has not changed, they seem to just work to a 1 hour rule.

    **It would take about 1hour to record the voice links.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    Does Bakhurst even bother looking at the licence fee drop

    That can be difficult when you're on holiday and trying to get away from it all after a draining three or four weeks at the helm 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Its part time work at best. In fact given the large teams backing up all these presenters, they are all part time workers at best, earning multiples of the industrial wage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No that was "How Low Can You Go". This was the era when RTÉ were commissioning alternative programming for N2 (AKA RTÉ2).

    You won't see an upcoming Baz or Brendan Courtney on RTÉ, you'd need to have influencers and a celebrity on such programming all produced for RTÉ ONE or it will be an even lower rent versions of "How Low Can You Go" and "Wanderlust" on the RTÉ Player sponsored by the DAA!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,576 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Looks fairly obvious that Bakhurst was instructed to get Tubridy back at all costs because it would have been easier to just cut the ties with him. Now he will have trouble with the RTE staff when Tubs returns and also the numbers refusing to pay the licence fee will increase. Interesting times ahead for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,660 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yeah I fully expected that. I doubt he will come back but part of me wants it to blow up in their faces.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I agree with you but in terms of professionals, but RTÉ is top heavy with management and administration, and it is over staffed. You have to realistically look at what RTÉ are providing for those wages and for those numbers of staff.

    As I say if RTÉ staff want to move into better paid administrative roles in the tech sector, or phrama they can move to them, those jobs are available to them, turnover of staff in RTÉ is one of the lowest. I doubt many will make the move, you may actually replace them with better people.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But they did that for 5 years with John Murray ,and Tubs moved over to 2FM and his audience didn't stay with on 2FM and he could not retain 2FM's audience. So is he really worth the money. Realistically?

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    He can't be dumb enough to ignore the collapse in income.


    He can afford to. He knows the government will step in with a bailout to cover that collapse no matter how big it is...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    He is taking other people's jobs.

    Let younger talent have a chance.

    Similar to the Bowman guy, in his 70s, still coining it from RTE funds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I would point to his stint on 2FM for five years, and that Radio 1 itself has a loyal audience.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Unless some of these people have made REALLY bad investments (a la Anglo Shares/Russell Murphy), to keep going for as long as they do, is only putting money in their grandkids' pockets.

    Super wealthy top tier personalities (such as Paul McCartney and Neil Young) are no different. They or their representatives are merching aggressively into their eighties (as opposed to continuing to perform-which I understand), and at that level they're probably ensuring their great grandchildren will never need to work a day in their lives..

    It makes no sense to me. You only get one go on the merry go round.

    (By those standards, Tubridy is positively a spring chicken.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,559 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Was there not some crossover? I thought Baz was on Wanderlust before “How Low Can you Go?” and his “star” performance on W got him the recurring role in HLCYG?

    It’s so long ago now I honestly can’t remember and Baz’s Wikipedia is not something I’m going to visit voluntarily! It would take an RTE contractor level fee to persuade me to do that.

    If I’m wrong, hands up….no issue with being corrected.



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