Coldplay - Dublin 2024 - Update Post 1 on Toutless

I would expect alot of people were looking for tickets because everybody was looking for tickets. Its the Garth brooks syndrome. The country went mad. How many of the people going to those gigs were actually fans vs going because it was all over social media and the news - the fear of missing out is powerful

Everybody knows the current ticket selling process/ ticketmaster is broken as it only serves the seller. So in a harsh way anybody that got upset with the prices, TM site crashing is on them a bit as that scenario, for any big gig these days, is expected and isn't something new

I'll rephrase it...

There is zero excuse for charging the excessive prices that they are. I have full knowledge of what goes on and I can tell you here and now, they know full well what they're at. There is no evil agent, promoter etc, it's the artists and the management teams. I know the record industry is down in terms of sales, purely because of streaming. I get that and it's been on the cards for decades. That blame is purely on the general public. I might use Spotify, but I always buy the physical product of an artist I like. Most others don't go looking for new music anymore or go to gigs in search of artists. They want to be told what to listen to and then stream it on their phones for a tenner or download it illegally from YouTube. Can you or I blame them? Nope, but it's a fact that has led to the downturn in the music industry. It's now at a point where Ed Sheeran, by his own admission, can just write something and it'll sell.

"Blue collared, man of the people, working class, Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen" Do me a favour 🙄

Music is subjective in people's tastes and that's why we love it but, I mentioned 3 artists and others have mentioned 3 artists.

U2, Queen, Michael Jackson = €177 (Based on inflation and the cost of a standing ticket the last time U2 were here)

Coldplay, Taylor Swift, Bruce Springsteen = €471

Whatever way you look at it, that is absolutely outrageous!

The Coldplay figure are way off.

using the rough €45 million.

Vat is 13.5% so that’s €6m gone straight away.

GAA HQ probably getting at least €3m.

garda will probably charge €500-€1m for off duty work

staging/set up could easily be another million

security will be another €1m or so for the week.

realistically Coldplay will probably get between €15 -€20M before they own expenses. I’m sure they probably have a crew of over 200/300 on tour with them.

Not saying that Coldplay tickets couldn’t be cheaper but this whole Coldplay walking away with €30m in their pockets is nonsense.

Don't forget the merchandise that they sell. That goes straight into the artist's pocket

not necessarily live nation usually demand 25% cut for their shows.

i’m sure Coldplay team have negotiated that down.

not sure if Coldplay would sell alot of merch tbh.

Ok. But in the costs that you provided, you have only amounted to €12m expenses, before their own crew. How much do you think the crew are paid for the week in Dublin that it would eat into the €15m approx costs that I proposed. If there was 300 crew, and they got €10,000 each for that week's work, that's another €3m, to bring to approx €15. I'm only guessing, as are you. But it may not be too far off the mark.

On any case, the overall point is that it is excessive greed charging the prices that they are for a 2 hour performance. There can be no denying that surely.

True. With Dublin accommodation prices, it could eat up the entire turnover.

I could mess around with figures for several days, but at the end of it, its going to show that Coldplay (or their corporate vehicle will have several, several millions (before the money is extracted by salary, dividends or whatever they do these days). I'm just saying (like many others) that there was no need to increase the ticket prices to such an extent. Could have fallen on an average figure of say €120 per ticket, and they would still several, several millions. But at the end of the day, its simple economics - Supply and demand etc. If those are willing to pay, they will charge. And from what it seems from the media attention, Coldplay could have trebled their extortionate prices and they would still sell.

Prices have gone mad, just been told that the Jonas Brothers are charging 125 euro for upper tier seats in the 3Arena.

The fecking Jonas Brothers.

Possible...

Queen and MJ, I know they both used to make sure ticket prices were affordable for fans. But, it is of course possible. None of us know what steps they'd take if they were around today. Those 50 shows Michael was supposed to be doing in 2009, ticket prices were high (Think it was close to 90 or 100 quid for the cheapest) but it's well documented now that had nothing to do with him. That was a very murky scenario altogether and one case where it was the promoter swindling the public

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_concert_tours

Some of us do know

For example, every drummer will replace the skins in their drums after every few gigs. Guitar players, bass players also change their strings every gig. So that can be an expense, but it's also written off because the companies like Ernie Ball give guitarists strings for free, in return for endorsements, thus meaning Ernie Ball sells more products to the general instrument playing public and that's how they make their profit.

Then there's the catering. Each artist has an on tour catering team with them so that feeds however many people and the daily cost of food on the tour has to be included. If you're Beyonce, you'll probably have about 5 catering teams just for herself.

Then there's wardrobe, stylists, make up artists (for both male and female) lighting directors etc. Many artists often use local techies to cut down on costs. Not saying Coldplay, just in general. Then there's security and other stuff. One artist went through $200 Raybans every night, over the course of 109 shows.

A band I was close to and who were pretty big, over a one month period, it doing 20 odd shows, it cost 80k a week to keep the tour going, before anything was set up and it was essentially, in comparison to other artists, pretty basic stuff

Fair play man, have u been checking regularly?

Ah OK, nice! You weren't checking randomly in the app and more that there was a mess-up with the presale.