Cost of a United Ireland and the GFA

It is apparent that sectarianism is more a working class problem. But why do you not like this pointed out? The reason is is because you are a believer in sectarian policies and by labeling sectarianism as a trait of the working class knuckle dragger will offend.

It has become apparent that unionism will be the loser of society becoming less sectarian. If a kid is born to a nationlist and unionist background parent. That kid wont have any hatred towards Ireland. Wont have a problem with irish language act or even been to referred to as irish. Wont be obsessed with flegs. This irish hatred union jack waver is the product of two unionist parents. This why we see the DUP not backing the new education bill that aims to mix kids or any other policies that aims to mix. In its aim in preserving itself it needs sectarian policies to continue to encourage unionist to only procreate with other unionists. This has pretty much happened since the plantations but now in the last 20 years mixed marriages are nolonger taboo. Even SF who were once a sectarian party are backing this education bill and not blocking Ulster Scots. They can see it is in nationlism interest to become less sectarian. This staunch anti irish unionism is thankfully dieing out.

?? Not sure what you mean.

Still none the wiser here.

Such a chancer.

Stone’s mother walked out of the marriage when he was a infant.

I'm actually in very strong agreement with you on this topic, Downcow.

I grew up on a council estate myself, and yes despite my mixed background I'm pretty staunch on my own political position. I think the ____isms of the working class are more visceral and obvious at times, but the snobbery of pretending that f*cking sectarianism is essentially an exclusively working class issue? Biggest load of b*llocks I've ever read on here

If Zoo would kindly explain what he means I have no issue responding if I need to.

I would like to know what downcow and blanch think devolution offers the people if devolution gets so intractable we have to have Border Poll.

downcow has admitted he sees it as appeasement of Unionism. That simply will be Unity in name only with defacto partition. Disaster in waiting

Anything with ‘broad support’ is likely to work.

Getting that support given the failure of devolution is the problem.

I think Unionism is doing that and we are heading towards defacto joint authority.

The only thing that will avoid that is, to quote Newtown Emerson, for Unionism to be less Unionist but they have neither the sense nor the strategic guile to do that. Political Unionism is getting more diehard.

And yes, I would put devolution out of it’s misery tbh

There is so much literature written about the working class sectarian divide in Belfast. I cant see any written about an upper class sectarian divide. Anyone who tries to deny that sectarianism effects the working class more is quite frankly a fool.

The proof is in the pudding tho. Could a catholic from the south like me move to the working class protestant area like the Shankill rd and live there peacefully??? Absolutely not. Could I live in an upper class protestant area like the Malone rd without issue?? yes. I see the once upper class protestant Malone rd now has a 50/50 catholic protestant split. This is so obvious. what is the agenda here denying sectarianism is a working class problem.