Coldplay - Dublin 2024 - Update Post 1 on Toutless

Jesus that's crazy

Ok great. Suspected that would be the way. Don’t really go to many concerts so wasn’t sure.

Will you throw in a pack of Dutch Gold for an additional fee ??

No Problemo kid.... 😁

ALSO :

Cooler bags optional... (for a small fee)

a Commemorative table also available (for a fee a bit bigger than a small fee)

Exclusive access tickets - just at the corner of the Hogan and Hill 16 -

*You can have amazing views of the rear right hand lower corner of the side of the stage* -

A once in a lifetime opportunity - Can also be used to get easy access into Elverys under the Hogan stand - Also unlimited views of the Croke Park hotel without Q'ing. All for just €999 .

*May or maynot be true - View may be impeded by lots of other people also looking down that little alleyway .......... No refunds available.

Of course there is a correlation.

Sites like Viagogo and Stubhub provided competition to Ticketmasters Platinum tickets.

They allowed people to buy tickets with a guarantee of money back if the ticket was invalid.

Personally I rarely used them but some people used to use them.

What you have now is Ticketmasters 700 or 900 euro offering or some scammer on social media.

I always tell people to wait, more tickets will be released or you can buy on Toutless or resale closer to the event, but alot of people are impatient or suffering peer pressure so panic and get stung.

The legislation was sneakily rushed through during Covid, politicians believed Platinum tickets were actually better ticket packages, they havent a clue, they overruled their own department who said a ban on above face value resale would lead to more fraud.

It was a pr stunt at a time the Govt needed a good news story.

People are being scammed by Instagram pages less than a week after it went on sale. Even if the resale market had more sites, these people still likely wouldn't have tickets at this point and still would be falling for scams.

There is no way that the demand for tickets would be met by the existing-ticket holders who want to sell their tickets (and let's be honest here, a majority of whom in the pre-legislation days would be selling these tickets at multiples of their face value), so these scams would still be there and still be fallen for by desperate, gullible people.

Exactly my point. The lack of resale opportunities/platforms have no correlation to the scams being run (and fallen for) at the moment.

If Stubhub, Viagogo or Seatwave still existed, they'd be selling all tickets significantly higher than face value and the scams to either 'win tickets' or 'buy a ticket at face value' would still be there and fallen for.

While "old fashioned touting" (let's be clear, Ticketmaster are essentially doing the same thing) isn't as common as it used to be there are still touts out there selling through DoneDeal, Facebook, outside venues etc. The legislation scared some of them off but they haven't gone away. The increase in scammers on social media and Ticketmaster trying to make secondary market ticket sales a closed shop has definitely overshadowed them but there's still money to be made by selling in demand tickets for above face value and people are going to continue to do it. It's small-scale but to say that touts don't exist or that Ticketmaster is the only tout is disingenuous.

Recently I've seen them outside Vicar Street, the Olympia, Trinity, all designated venues under the legislation i.e you can't sell tickets for above face value for events there but there's a big difference between having something in writing and implementing it. The total number of people prosecuted since the legislation has been brought in - zero.

I do agree that Ticketmaster/Live Nation are the bigger issue. The legislation "solved" one problem, it killed off Viagogo, StubHub etc. but created another. Live Nation can now manage an artist (SZA to take a recent example), own the ticketing platform (Ticketmaster), own the promoter (MCD), own the venue (3Arena) and control most secondary ticket sales as well. It's easy to see how they can manipulate demand to push overpriced platinum tickets, sell the same ticket multiple times and collect various fees etc. when they have that kind of monopoly. And without straying too far into tinfoil hat territory there were "industry experts" who advised the government on that legislation who maybe had one eye on their own interests.

I think that's were the government involvement ends, they were seen to be doing something but just gave the keys to Ticketmaster who'll continue clean up. We're already moving towards how these big shows are sold in the US, multiple levels of ticketing, not just a different view/seat, a different "experience" to justify the eye watering prices. It won't be long before we're paying €10 for a pint (that would be cheap in the US) in a plastic cup too, everything to maximize profits. The artists are also complicit, they reap the rewards as well, the Cure on their recent US tour and others have shown that you can still put the fans first.

I'd say it'll be alot of single seats or max 2 for resale where people may have bought 4-6 and don't want that many after

Some €390 tickets for Sunday showing just there now

I checked but all gone. Of the experience packages, it's the only one I would consider buying if nothing else. Early access standing for a high demand concert would be great. Still expensive but better value for money than the other packages imo

Ticket price is based on promotion company (Live Nation) the venue, ticket selling platform, re-selling ticket platform and the artist. I would expect the artist to have the least amount of say in the over all price as there would be a min-price to cover all costs then the artist gets their cut. Its an absolutely horrible model and would love to see artists going solo and trying to do things themselves - if enough got together and refused to work with the traditional model venues would have no choice but follow suit

People write some absolute rubbish on here!

The big artists don't have as much say as you think as they sign contracts with the likes of Live nation to be their promotion partner - as part of that deal the artist gets a nice bonus / sign on fee and for that money they give away a % of control.