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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Is there any chance this sort of attack is false flag stuff to galvanise Russians for the war effort?

    “Look, they are attacking us”! Can’t trust anything when it comes to Russia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭TedBundysDriver


    Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭Field east


    Like the peace between Russia and The EU - and especially Germany- up until Feb 2022 ?????????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    And a huge problem with the pyramid scheme they've been pushing the last 60 or 70yrs. Constant economic growth is not possible without constant population growth and neither is consistently possible, feasible or desirable for that matter. Its all going to hit the wall at some stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    That was posted on a pro Ukraine account so I doubt they'd be claiming it unless they did it. And rightly so. No amount of patriotism is going to change to capacity of what Russia can throw at this war. They're maxing out as it stands.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Maybe, but this attack came just after they raised the conscription to 30.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    No it's beyond that I feel.

    This is Putin orchestrating to an international audience. It's false flags. But it's false flags for every country and citizen outside Ukraine and Russia.

    It's false flags for China, Africa, UK, Ireland, USA, ....Antarctica ...to start calling for ah come on now lads can we not start talking now.

    Putin is doing this to put pressure on countries to slow down or stop supporting Ukraine. We know better now though. Don't we? And know the Kremlin and Putin psyche.

    Expect Putin and the Kremlin to start shooting more of themselves and feet to look for more sympathy. Not that they had any to start with. But some feeble amount in their minds is better than none.

    More buildings will be targeted, schools, churches, business areas, maybe nuclear power stations. Anything that can turn world opinion to withdraw support for Ukraine and Putin to look an innocent party. Negotiations are being murmured on the Russian side. This is part of the Kremlin plan to force those militarily supporting Ukraine to also look that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    The Tories torpedoed it for themselves when both partners working turned from an option to a necessity. Add in the ridiculous cost of living, and the cost of property itself and you have a recipe for small families. And that's before you factor in childminding, which can't be provided by the state because that yould be (shock, horror) "socialism", and would close off a means for the private sector to screw money out of hard-working families.

    As for Putin, well if Russia provided more services to its people and less profits to oligarchs, maybe more Russian women would be having babies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The upshot is that Western society necessitates or allows for 2 income parental units - but said society remains predominantly configured for 1 income units. private childminding is a racket that's gouging families who need it to stay afloat, yet the government - here and the UK - will drag their feet from nationalising childcare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Just shows what drones can do for tanks. It literally gave the Russian commander of that tank eyes in the sky, told them what direction enemy was coming from, how many vehicles, what types, it told him no other enemies in the vicinity other then them.The Russian tank really went at the Ukrainians there and came back for more, he didn't let up. Watching the video the Ukrainian vehicles bunched up they were lucky nó Russian helicopter picking them off, saying that the Russian tank done some serious damage there. Looking at the Ukrainian vehicles I wonder was there special forces etc in them as you see in a lot of videos them using these to get around Russian positions and attack it fast. Or were they newer recruits going into action for 1st time. Or maybe they weren't expecting 1 Russian tank to keep coming back and attacking them the way it did.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Surely the Russians should be worried if anything can hit Moscow ? If a drone can then what else ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Maybe drones are harder to detect than missiles fired from a further distance.

    A drone could be launched from within Moskow.

    Even so I do wonder how effective the air defense systems are for the Capital.

    Maybe they should keep a lookout for Chinese weather balloons ;-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭rogber


    Probably because the same people have been predicting the imminent collapse of Russian defences since May 2022. It's always just around the next corner, usually 2-6 weeks away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    You don't believe the Kremlin are willing and able to attack their own people on the pretext to blame someone else?

    History says otherwise.

    The precedent has already been set for people to believe it they'll do it again and again.

    Russians are slow. They'll resort to past tactics. And believe it'll be different this time.

    Putin also wants himself and family not to end up like the royal family. Defending home turf from these "terrorists" might just do that. It worked for the man before. The terrorist is Putin but vatniks don't want to know that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭rogber


    Interesting comments. Suggests the drone attacks are from Ukraine and not "false flag" episodes as tin hat brigade are claiming. And also suggests Ukraine is expecting the war to continue through at least another winter:

    War is returning to Russia', says Zelenskiy

    Volodymyr Zelenskiy warned on Sunday that “war” was coming to Russia after three Ukrainian drones were downed over Moscow.

    On a visit to the western city of Ivano-Frankivsk, the Ukrainian president said:

    Gradually, the war is returning to the territory of Russia – to its symbolic centres and military bases, and this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process.

    “Ukraine is getting stronger,” he added, but warned that the country should prepare for new attacks on energy infrastructure in winter, Agence France-Presse reported.

    “But we must be aware that, just as last year, Russian terrorists can still attack our energy sector and critical facilities this winter,” he said, adding that preparations for “all possible scenarios” were discussed in Ivano-Frankivsk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭rogber


    Of course it's possible and there is history but the Ukrainians themselves, including Zelensky today, have pretty much confirmed they are behind it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

    nato.jpg


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭amandstu


    It would be a master coup if ,at some stage Putin was able to organize a false flag that broke the resolve of Ukraine's allies to support it sufficiently.

    He must know that those governments are on a much tighter leash wrt their electorates,whereas his own has been inoculated against being coerced and deceived at this stage(there are limits of course that it would be pleasant to witness if they are breached ,although Putin's replacement may not be so pleasant)



  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    A Russian commander is punishing a group of Russian soldiers who developed addictions to alcohol during their duty on the frontlines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    In that case you've already provided your own answer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    wonder what kind of plane

    Edit: twitter link seems to be broken, footage of UAF shooting down a Russian jet with two parachutes seen

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Also, good news

    Looks like the Ukranians played the UNO reverse card on the Russians


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Ramasun


    Fallen trees caused the death of 8 people at a campsite in Russia


    Did the Ukrainians plant them?

    (sorry I've been waiting a long time to say that about something plant related)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭rogber


    It would be but I don't think the Russians are smart enough to do that and they don't exactly have much credibility in the bank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭rogber


    You're shifting the goalposts. Yes, it's been a disaster for Russia, and Ukraine and its allies have done a great job, albeit at huge cost to themselves also.

    But it's still a long way from restoring pre Feb 22 borders, let alone retaking Crimea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Genetically modified mosquitoes are being sent to Russia to chew down the trees.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Thats interesting. I could have sworn Francie earlier in the thread said they'd be keeping a close eye on this one. Presumably to update us on it. However since it seems like the Russian counter counter offensive is collapsing they've been quiet on the subject. I've little doubt that if the Russians had pushed the line forward another 5km they'd be the first one here to report it. And they'd be doing it with thinly veiled glee.

    Capture.PNG


    Russian channels saying Ukr are pushing even further forward. Heres hoping that theres some serious cracks showing and breakthroughs incoming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Who would have thought it possible that China would ever see the day, when population reduction was the national target for many years! Now India is moving into the Nr 1 population slot. Strange times indeed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Ramasun


    I don't have the military training or strategic mind to work this out but if Wagner clumsily provoke a reaction from Poland on the border with Belarus who's involved there?

    Hypothetically there's an armed incursion by Wagnerites posing as Syrian refugees and Polish border forces have to push them back into Belarus.

    Polish border forces end up over the border and are engaged by more Wagner forces, can they just try wipe them out?



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