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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,465 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Can everyone discuss the topic, and not posters (be that poster yourself or anyone else)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭sxt


    All Ryan has to do is give back the 150k he was paid by RTE for 6 gigs that's didn't happen and probably will never happen and he will be free to return to RTE. Is that where we are at,do you think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    There’s a lot more than that to this topic I’m afraid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    And the millions from the barter account they all thought was their personal slush fund



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,089 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭sxt


    I agree with that. RTE is a broken and rotitng from the insides and needs systematic change .I feel as though,as far as Tubridy and bahurst are concerned, this 150k is the crux of the matter. That is what their "Frank and open discussion was about"

    I think Tubridy will be back once he agrees to hand back that money. I think there will be a big PR machine in motion to get him back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    And if he is back that just smacks of no accountability - do wrong, get rewarded. He had the chance to hand the money back the day this all blew up (and the day he became aware of it) and he didn't because he thinks he is entitled to the money - the whole "if someone asks me to hand it back I will" just reeks of the self entitlement of the "talent" and whole Board and higher ups in RTE.

    They've become so accustomed to the lavish lifestyle they now believe it is a right they are entitled to.


    How the government can expect that everyone in the country should pay towards RTE with a broadcasting charge whilst any of the current heads are in charge and absolutely no reform whatsoever. The licence fee allows those who do not want to support RTE and its wastage a means of not supporting it.

    RTE is either a PSB or its a commercial operation - they shouldn't be allowed to have the best of both worlds whilst doing the absolute minimum of promotion of Irish heritage and Irish sponsored production. I've seen a good few UK produced shows doing what RTE should have been doing over the past few years - if it was up to RTE Father Ted would have never existed.

    If a PSB then zero advertising and all this talk of this "star" and this "star" brings in so much advertising is out the window and they are paid a fair wage (not a contractor)


    Didn't expect to go on that rant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,089 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    If the PR machine involves NKM puff pieces, RTE have not learnt their lesson and can get to fook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭sxt


    You have just described Business /politics in Ireland. There has never been accountability because there is zero appetite for it, and no consequences for criminally abusing publically funded money. It's a vile incestuous cess pitt of depravity . Disgusting immorality from politics and state funded entities colluding with each other to profit themselves at the publics expense


    Dee Forbes should have a cab inspector at her door, and a crime investigation...instead she is going to have a state guaranteed golden egg pension and complete impunity!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Have to disagree with you about Marty, he has stolen a living on the back of the gaa and with Rte as well, another talentless clown with the hand in the cookie jar, commentary on the Ireland with him is the same old waffle with a long gone sell by date. Hopefully revenue catch up with him shortly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    fritzkelly 11:19pm

    How the government can expect that everyone in the country should pay towards RTE with a broadcasting charge whilst any of the current heads are in charge and absolutely no reform whatsoever. The licence fee allows those who do not want to support RTE and its wastage a means of not supporting it.

    Yes it is very odd. The correct response would have been to strengthen the leverage of the public rather than weaken it. Even as it stands, in order to fully legally withdraw financial support for RTE, as everyone should, you have to not own a television which, although doable, is still unfair.

    A fairer way of funding RTE would be to tie the fee to specifically viewing RTE rather than owning a TV. RTE, if they thought they were any good, would be screaming for this approach. That was always their complaint: people not paying their TV licence but still enjoying RTE's content. Logically therefore a subscription model would be fairest on both consumer and RTE. Only those who pay get to watch RTE (no more evasion) but those who don't are free to watch the output of other companies.

    But of course they don't support this model because they know their output is such that very few would choose to pay for it. Hence the rush to a compulsory charge in the wake of the scandal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭blarney_boy


    With all these talk of podcasts - listened to Joe Brolly / Dion Fanning one - thought it was interesting -

    But another that was thought provoking was the David McWilliams podcast (again he's not everybody's cup of tea) but he was making the case that if you compare salaries in our national broadcaster RTE 300K to 500K to broadcaster salaries in Denmark (which has the same population as us) their national broadcaster pays it's presenters 90K to 120K.

    I immediately though of the debate on the 100K salary - if the Danish national broadcaster is running their organisation and the top earner there is on 120K how the FUP did we end up with Ryan 'Toyman' Tubridy on 500K?

    Oh, and another point from the Brolly-cast that I agreed with, he was talking about Gay Byrne and how fearless he was in confronting the accepted pieties of the time and never shied away from controversy even though he knew he might lose his job . . . the current generation of broadcasters in comparison will never challenge the orthodoxy - their inflated salaries buys their silence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    This was another out of touch ego-driven piece of humblebragging by Tubs via NKM via the tabloids:

    Gift Grub did a sketch about it at the time, mocking how “famous” Tubs claimed to be/was in his own head. I couldn’t find it on a quick search but will look further tomorrow.


    found it:

    A few bingo buzzwords for the radio thread regulars in there too…..;)

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  • Posts: 474 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its like AI wrote this POS.

    "Ryan Tubridy said there is ‘no escape’ from fans worldwide as he opened up on the reality of being one of the most famous men in Ireland."

    Global fame yet national in one sentence?

    "Asked if there is anywhere he can go unnoticed, he joked: “I have a really nice couch.”"

    This lad is a prize c***.

    All day. No breaks.

    No wonder his husband left him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    For me, it was the vox pop comments that illustrate part of the barrier to change.

    One supporter of the RTE man wrote online: “Great, transparent, genuine statement, Marty.

    “You did some gigs for Renault, they ­provided you with a car. You are far from alone in that regard in RTE. No big deal.”

    And one wrote: “Why are you apologising? Renault gave you a car to spin around in. So what?”

    “Transparent, genuine statement” - yeah, when caught out after 5 years driving for free

    ”No big deal” and “So what”. Says it all about the psyche, really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    I’d forgotten that fluff from last year. He certainly believes his own PR. Laughable really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    It’s more “creates” than “believes” tbh. All part of the NKM brand bible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    An old but insightful piece on Tubs from long gone rabble.ie:

    Their while Gombeen series was amusing. Another prominent NKM “talent” also featured:

    I’d say Tubs and Noel were impressed. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Many people here on this thread, myself included have been absolutely consistent that should be no future role as a public facing presenter for Tubridy in RTE. And that ideally he should take his talents elsewhere.

    This as part of a complete overhaul of the contracts other presenters are on. That there needs to be much tighter financial controls in RTE and the ending of the junkets and perks culture.

    And that IMHO is what is needed, a steady consistent message and a public demand for change.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer




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  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    I believe the time is coming very shortly that RTE can no longer afford anyone the likes of Tubridy any more. In fact I don’t believe I’ll be far wrong predicting the demise of RTE as we know it. Bakhurst’s tenure will be short enough, just enough to prepare for the reconstitution of the broadcaster into a new entity, and maybe with a different branding, hopefully maintaining the core experienced staff who hold it together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    "I’ve been to New York and down in the subways, and had ‘what are you doing here Tubs’ and yeah it’s everywhere"

    Yeah, but seemingly the rodents down in the New York subway can be very aggressive and territorial. Especially if you were trying to push one for a selfie.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    He must have been highly indulged as a child to have such an ego. Always told he was the best boy in the world I reckon. People who crave validation the way he does have either been hyper-indulged, or on the other hand hyper-criticism or early bullying during childhood can lead to it too, but usually the inner self-confidence is not evident. Ryan has no shortage of self-confidence so it would be from constantly being told, by well-meaning family etc, that he’s infallible. Maybe older bro being manifestly exceptionally intelligent, there was over-compensation to validate Ryan.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,522 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I can see a solicitor standing up in court and saying '' My client was indeed found coming out the window of the victim's house with the property in his possession but he has agreed to give it back and he will attend mass next Sunday''.

    He's still a burglar.



  • Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "You're the best little future Toyman in the world, yes you are, yes you are".

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Kingsley Itchy Locust



    For me the fact he stood idly by whilst his underdeclared earnings were published in the media is incomprehensible.

    The man had something to hide at the same time he was spouting all the "we're in this together" stuff.

    Very disengenous and not the man he made himself out to be. No way he can return.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Kingsley Itchy Locust


    That would be good, and would be great to see a pathway for a flow of journalism/ media students into the organisation.

    No more nepotism.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭techman1


    Scrap Saturday got on the wrong side of tge political classes for not testing them with the required reverence and Savage Eye did likewise for RTE ‘talent’. Both were cancelled never to be repeated. 

    Yea McSavage was born into the golden circle but he turned around and bit them all and burnt all his bridges.

    He was defending Tubridy on his podcast though and said he deserved his salary. He said that all the RTE reporters and staff protesting outside RTE were just jealous because they could never get that sort of money.

    You can't even search for the Savage eye on the player as its been taken off that aswell. Some of the sketches have a cult following now due to tik tok etc among the young that never say the series when it was aired on RTE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭techman1


    There are a few middle aged bores in RTE that have their own TV and radio shows and they are indulged



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Interesting about the Danish model. I know that culturally Denmark is very much of that Scandinavian view that there is a solid social contract. ie "you do the work, pay a lot of tax, and we promise that those taxes will be put to good use in the public good and we won't take the piss with our salaries" - That would very much NOT be the Irish view!

    As well as the obvious historical issues around colonization leading to a culture of cute hoorism, I wonder how much of this attitude also comes down to Ireland being an english speaking country. Had we been irish speaking, I can see an alternate reality where RTE is a trimmed down organisation, on a much smaller budget and all the "talent" are on fractions of the current figures. Our fluency with the saxon tongue certainly allows us to believe, as a great stateswoman once said "that we are much closer to Boston than Berlin" with all the extravagance that that entails.

    This all sounds like a David McWilliams podcast episode if ever I heard one! RE Brolly's take on Gay Byrne and his love of taking a lump hammer to traditional Ireland's pieties, I though that was very true and something that has always perplexed me about Tubridy. He is a man who would have been far more comfortable fronting the LLS in the mid 1960's. I'm sure had any missives come in from the Archbishop, he would happily change or drop items to placate His Eminence. By some weird quirk, the Ireland of the 2010's having undergone all the societal change imaginable, somehow had the most conservative invertebrate working on the flagship programme of the national broadcaster.



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