Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Ya, I worked in a large multinational for nearly 20 years, good pay and great conditions and really well treated. Share options, subsidised canteen, healthcare for the whole family, pension contributions, great colleagues, a start time and finish time, holiday pay, parental leave, the list goes on and on. It was a great place to work. 3 days a week for the 39 hours and helped my parents with the farming for the rest of the week. Best times of my life were had there.

Thanks, asshole .

@green daries - is it illegal cause I've never heard of it.

Our Vet has previously given in calf cow's medication that would abort the fetus in order to save the cow. I presume our Vet is well versed on DAFM/EU animal welfare legislation.

As far as I know the drugs needed shouldn't be used for that purpose intentionally.... I presume it is different when treatment is needed to save the cow. That's my understanding of it anyway base. ....I'm obviously open to correction.. terms and conditions apply. 😁

It will be 70++. The financial area is very competitive for employment at present. He never minds the work.

Isn't the issue in your situation the debt per cow now accumulated to get to 170 is at a level halving cow numbers isn't even a option in your case, I worked a figure last week what was needed per cow to service loan repayments/interest/hp repayments/wages, and certain costs that where constant every month by dd, esb/insurance/land rent/phone etc no big item variable costs like meal/fertilizer/contractors where included the figure per cow was the wrongside of a 1000 euro a cow per year in 18 months time alot of loans are coming to their end and the sums done on half the cow numbers, all rented ground dropped, are coming to 600 euro per cow a year.....

The rental cost per cow per year at current numbers given what landlords want for a 5 year lease from next year would be 400 euro a cow, it's not feasible at a milk price in the mid 30's given where input costs are at and labour costs

Jaymla

At last someone is seeing the light. While regs have been changing or threatening to be changed for the last couple of years all the thinking was that expansion or keeping production level was the answer.

It one think renting a plot next to you but lads renting 15+km away paying through the nose for it to keep numbers up is crazy. They then are growing maize or zero grazing it. The numbers do not make sense.

Your assumptions about 60-70 cow units is deeply flawed. First off they are putting in the infrastructure for 60-70 cows not 100++. There is usually some infrastructure in place even in conversions. Suckler and berg units will have slatted units, tillage will have sheds. Most however ten to be dairy or former dairy units.

These farms can use the TAMS to get to where they want within 10-15 years. A young farmer will get 60% that allows 100k+ of investment ( Inc vat( for 36k. He also has access to the solar on top of that. That is 5-600 euro/ cow net. Even if he goes beyond that at the start without a grant he is probably still on a decent income as a young worker

I do not understand the second labour unit argument. It's a chicken and egg argument. Which came first the chicken or the egg. Which came first the income or the labour units. It's probably only applicable in a small number of cases.

Most young lads can get a trade or go to college. Either will stand to them.in farming. The second income struggles in that you inheritor needs to fall in after leaving school

Ya it has done no favours to farmers. It seems great in theory but for the average farmer or small business owner it's absolutely no advantage

out of curiosity what were you milking prior to the removal of quota's.

fair play for driving on post quota, we were just happy not to get caught for superlevy every year 😁

Worked at cows for a number of years till got fed up of them, have seen many systems over the years, but one of the best was an 80 to 100 cow herd with a lim bull and buying in incalf heifers from same source every year with a father and son team, the son had a electrical business going with two lads working for him, the son or one the lads would milk a certain amount of morning and evening milkings and the father the rest, sold all caves at 3 weeks old and in the summer the father would collect parts for the son, there is merits to every farm system and what suits that farm. As an old teacher in ag college use to say everyone is outstanding in their own field.

Are these job nationwide or Dublin based?