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They do,but they don't have great things to say about Ukrainians either,and yet the Ukrainians are the victim in this war

Most Americans couldn’t point out Russia on a map. Never mine Ukraine. Come to think of it. They probably couldn’t point out America.

Some do, but a lot? What exactly do you consider a lot.

The religious apparatus in Russia is heavily linked to the FSB and Kremlin. The patriarch is especially close to Putin. They are supportive of the invasion and have labelled Ukrainians as "evil". The whole thing is a little darker than a queen launching ships or standard army chaplains.

The majority of Americans I know are supportive of Ukraine. Beyond that I have never heard or seen Americans actually bashing Ukraine other then some of their political far right Republicans you see on TV. I have seen many Ukrainian flags outside houses or in work spaces never once have I seen a flag of the Russian dictatorship. I say the above as someone who spends part of the year working in the US.

Most, not all, of Africa has poor to incredibly poor land, especially the heavily populated parts. Ukrainian grain also feeds North Africa and much of the middle East.

Given the ultra free market approach to migration in Europe, there will tens of millions looking North to Europe, year after year.

The establishment will talk of solidarity etc and that's all,no talk of security, self defense, chaos.

Russia should be told that any attack on international shipping and threats to global food security will meet a measured response, sink the black sea fleet. Any airlines that fly in to Russia will be sanctioned, and blocked from European airspace, etc etc.

The Russians are calling the West's bluff by destroying the port in Odessa though.

Ukraine is blessed that it is a corrupt leader like Putin trying it on and Putin is blessed that his opponents in the West are so lackluster. He'd probably be in ditch already but for it.

It's religious radicalisation of the populaces

Yes. Notable treaties that were disregarded are the Paris climate change and the Iran deal. So it can be done but you need political will to get it done as well. Shutting off the Iran economy and reducing climate regulations are an easy sell.

Less arms manufacturing (or less of whatever the US is spending money on) is a harder sell to those businesses making money off of it. Plus it makes the US look weak to back down against Russia now it is committed.

As someone who spends a portion of each year working in the US I agree some do despise their government but a lot I don't know I would say that. Of course neither you nor I can really put a number on it. Here's what I do say to people asking me about Americans. IMHO about a third of Americans are among the most vile disgusting violent hate filled people. Then conversely about a third are among the most friendly welcoming open people. Finally you have about another third who very much believe in a I society with not much We so are pretty selfish but they tend to be welcoming nice people in general with none of the hate of the bottom third. That of course is purely my own opinion but it is based on wide experience of the country directly on my part.

Are we completely sure there are no back channel negotiations going on in order to bodge together a compromise?

The implications for Western Europe are much more severe from this than they are for the Ukraine.

This issue is bigger than Ukraine or the war there. It's a global security issue but especially an issue for Europe, one that is much bigger than the war in Ukraine which is just another **** war in the greater scheme of things.

Putin hoped that the gas issue, Merkel's good work there, would leave Germany and Europe in deep crisis last winter. He will Keep trying.

There is an existential element to this conflict for Western Europe, that outweighs Ukrainian needs. Protecting the stability of the entire arc around Europe is bigger than who wins in Ukraine frankly.

And people thought everyone was dependent on Russia.

Turns out Russia is dependent on Ukrainian goodwill. Which as you imagine has been used up.

Russia bombs Ukraine. Ukraine stops a pipeline. Russia bombs Odessa grain facilities and port and holds the world to ransom over Ukrainian grain ( or at least that's the story Russia wants out there). Then promises to extend the grain deal if a fertiliser pipeline is reopened. But the kicker is the grain facilities and port have been damaged even if the offer to open the pipeline is taken up. And Russia most likely will be demanding Russian ships berth in Odessa at the end of the pipeline.

I'd love to blow that pipeline myself. 🤣

If true, extraordinary figures. And ratios look at the killed v wounded.

we'll never know