Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

There shouldn’t be such a big need to generate 2 incomes from what was originally a 70-80 cow herd in your example above.

The biggest problem is a lot of the fathers in them set ups don’t want to let go of the reins. I see it here locally and with customers of mine, a father in his 70’s and son in his late 30’s or 40’s and the fathers name is still on the chequebook. The same father whose name was on the chequebook 40 plus years ago when his father handed him the farm in his late 20’s or 30’s with the difference being his father handed it over entirely and stepped back.

These lads need to realise that if they can’t give the next generation full control and sign the place over when they’re in their 30’s then all they’re doing is holding them and the farm back. In most of these scenarios there’s 2 pensions coming in to the house so they shouldn’t need money from the farm as it’s highly unlikely there’s still a mortgage or family being reared in the house so just hand it over and step back. There’s no tow bar on a hearse so let the next generation have it.

I agree 100%. I am 42 and the youngsters are 13 and 15. If they are interested and capable I'll be leaving it to them when I'm about 57. I work part time off farm and that is easily expandable to full time by writing 1 email. At that stage they will be 28 and 30 so I'll be happy enough with a part time income and herself on the same. How much would it take to keep the 2 of us going in a mortgage free house with no dependents?

disgraceful behaviour from rte. but then what would you expect from a corrupt organisation. any investigation will only scratch the surface

They have built serious businesses, making eyewatering profits and will steer through any upcoming regulation changes with ease such is their financial strength.

Thats good to hear. No problems so.

I'm the same as that. If you haven't enough money made by 60 you will never have enough. If my young lads don't want it, hopefully there will be a good leasing market.

Did Tim Cullinan offer to go on Primetime?

Surely he could have talked very knowledgeably on the issue?

Not a bad idea, at least ur around to keep an eye when I took over when I was 24 I made alot if mistakes due to no.one around

How do you find the physioloth ?

There ye go now lads. Mattie has the answer.

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I hope it works out. Health is the big issue. A lot of lads around here lately are getting half fecked from mid 50s onwards .. there will be plenty of land and cows to be milked as I know a lot of townlands and there is no farmer under 40 or children coming up. We talk about cow breeding all the time, it's themselves should be breeding. 4 kids starting national school in a big parish.

Now that I would agree with re the breeding part this country will get old fast when it does start to change age wise. Without a lot of the influx of foreign workers or migrants the population would probably have peaked well before now

It was Michael Collins TD left overs decided the other two seats but she got a great no1 vote as a new comer especially from younger people . Here in West cork is quite different to inland county's. A townland by the coast might be 50/50 natives and blow ins.

Don't shoot me but I gave her 2nd preference. She was young, well spoken local. I never taught she would stab us all in the back. Aughadown / kilcoe is a great farming parish

Contracting always make more sense. It's a yearly taxable expense. If it does not make sense move on

Know of a farm 600 plus cows where it was originally the father and 2 sons, was a bust-up and the two sons walked away from the place, father is trying to run the place with hired in help now and its a bit of a s**tshow, naturally enough without the family labour to take up the slack....