F1 2023 thread

Yeah it's completely different these days and rookies definitely need to be given time to acclimatise.

There is a distinction with de Vries though as he's actually a lot older and more experienced than his teammate, with plenty of seasons in other racing series behind him, and he's shown no signs of improvement as the season has gone on in the way Piastri has.

It's race week! Hungaroring coming up.

Yeah, I don’t expect miracles because the AT is poor, but he should be looking to beat Yuki in fairly short order. If he can consistently do that, he has an outside chance of the second seat at RB next year if Perez continues to underperform.

Yeah fair point that he's in the conversation for the Red Bull deat. I doubt he had many choices to make though. Was he actually offered any drives for this year?

Checo will be praying for a better run. Imagine if he had to start from the back for any reason and be dicing with Ricciardo. The click bait websites would be in overdrive.

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According to Guenther Steiner, he wanted '10 f u cking million'

Ya i read that he did good time after just 7 laps.

Initially I had not been too impressed as anyone should be able to get a good lap out of it if allowed to do lap after lap after lap with no pressure but to immediately get it on the pace is excellent to be fair.

Silly season has started over who has breached the budget cap for 2022. Rumours of 3 teams. Domenicali is calling for sporting penalties instead of fines.

I think it's a bit rich calling for sporting penalties so late in the day when they set the precedent last year for Red Bull.

The penalties should be made clear before the season starts so everyone knows where they stand. Otherwise teams will chance there arm and can use the Red Bull penalty as reference in there defence.

That sounds like a good idea, except it would need to apply to both championships. The driver's championship carries more prestige than the constructor's, so they'd need to avoid the possibility of a team sacrificing one for the other.

That is the only reasons the hypercars exist and to be honest, I don't see how that can be policed to standard that would hold up in law.

You are aware Red Bull were hit with a pretty draconian sporting penalty last year and not just a fine? They have heavily limited wind tunnel access because of it which is hurting their development progress and will certainly have a big impact on next year's car.

It's hard for the penalties to be clear cut really as each case is different - you have cases like Red Bull last year where the FIA admitted that the team acted entirely in good faith, they gained no performance advantage, and were simply victims to a different interpretation of some vaguely written rules which everyone now knows about for this year, or you may have cases where teams have genuinely broken budget to gain an unfair advantage, through using road car programs as a trojan horse or whatever.