The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

That is still a large minority shouting for Derry and Monaghan. I was at the Cork Derry game. And God, it was shocking boring. I don't think I could shout for Derry in a game, even if it was an All-Ireland in which Dublin were going for 20-in-a-row.

I think Monaghan play some form of attacking football - at least the half-backs get involved and tack on a few scores. And they have McCarron and a couple of Hughes who have been great servants. And of course the mighty McManus. But I think they will play so defense tomorrow, that it will just put me off shouting for them. Of course, for their own sake, they are probably better off doing that, as they are a lot more limited than Dublin in terms of football ability and athleticism.

If someone gives a stat (Dublin and Kerry do the most kick passing), then it has to come from somewhere. I noticed things like Dublin having all of their players in their own half. But I don't use that to make up stuff.

You have a team which only ever reached one "Cup Final" in the past and they lost that. And a team which won one and lost one. Against two teams who have 68 Cups between them. Bit of a fairy story there, rather than a damp squib.

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Tyrone almost got knocked out by westmeath. Several games in the final group stage and preQF were decided by a point with the last kick of the game. Last round had a game go to penalties.

Theres been plenty of competitive games. Possibly could have done with a few more upsets but no team maintained a 100% record. Shaping up to be a Kerry Dublin final, but they are likely the two best teams in the country, so why wouldn't they be in the final. What are you hoping for exactly?

Coupled with the usual cloud shouting about any new championship formats.

Jesus if you’re shouting for Kerry because Dublin have won enough I don’t know what to say

It's all about wining and if Derry can win playing the system they have well bring it on, Dublin came up with this system, keep ball and we're right good at it, changed the game and winning loads of Alireland titles, great team, looking forward to weekend like all sport you never know what could happen and if it does end up Kerry and dublin in the final let's hope its like 78 when an old great Dublin team hand over to a younger great Kerry team.

The big difference between Kerry and Dublin and most other teams is the way they probe the blanket defence. It's not a case of continuous hand passing outside the 45. Kerry have been excellent in the last two games at probing the BD. They move the ball a lot by kick passing down into a corner then move the ball rapidly back out kick pass across the front of the BD and into the other corner.

The purpose of this is to tire defenders moving to prevent a runners getting a pass or allowing a scoring forward a decent scoring chance.

Derry have the best BD and Kerry may struggle with it on Sunday.

The blanket Louth and Tyrone used against Kerry can be best described as one filled with holes. In round 2 of the group stages the Cork blanket was harder to score against and create for Kerry.

I think you'll get your wish on sat.

I have a feeling kerry will destroy Derry.That kind of muck football will get a limited team so far but they'll never win anything with it.

Kerry by 8.

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How teams set up is entirely up to them, within the rules, and it's snobbish and unfair in us to decide the job of teams is to solely provide entertainment to the masses. Are lads to be fed to the lions gladiator style, a gallant death while we give them the thumbs up or thumbs down style?

What's the ultimate prize? I'd imagine for Derry, if you said 2 years ago, you'd have 2 Ulster titles and successive semi final slots it would be defined as success, no?

Like with all of these things, it's about balance. The only thing I don't like about top teams playing defensive style football is that club teams copy the low hanging aspects of it and those parts trickle down,eg. the 14 behind the ball and mind numbing possession will be aped by junior club teams but the fast transitions and 14 attackers moving at pace won't.

It's up to congress and the rule makers to change it enforce the existing rules of they want to change the game as a spectacle. Other field games like soccer, rugby etc change and tweak their roles constantly to shape the games in response to coaching trends, which always tend to be negative. We talk about it endlessly but do nothing, so until that culture changes then buckle up.

If you want mindless entertainment, go see Mission Impossible in the cinema!

I was looking out the window there and gave a 'jayus..' looking at them threatening clouds. If it is a dirty day, making it even cagier will suit Monaghan's game - and Conor McManus to throw on in the last 20 minutes.

If there was four ahead for Dublin or less in it with 20 minutes to go I would be a bit worried as Dub supporter. Anything more than four ahead for Dublin with 20 to go I wouldn't see Monaghan coming back - given their style of play.

From a Monaghan point of view they would want to keep it as tight/cagey messy for as long as possible. Dublin would be looking for the opposite build up a lead - kill the game quick.

But I had a good look at recent Monaghan v Dublin results from the league - Monaghan relegated Dublin two years ago and there has been plenty of close games etc

Derry play similar style to Monaghan but I would argue Derry are even better at it, but on the other hand Kerry have got smarter and copied the 'peak Dublin' tactics. Wear a team down chip away keep the score board ticking over and 'no risk' football.

If Kerry or Dublin get a decent lead in either match it is game over as a contest I think.

I would like to see Monaghan and Derry in the final. They have won hardly nothing between them collectively in terms of football All Irelands. Kerry and Dublin have won it so many times. How would some people on here want to see one of them winning it for another time makes you wonder the reasoning behind that? If it's because they play free flowing football, well that is now not the case in this modern era of football. Dublin and Kerry are also masters of playing defensive and negative football when the need for it occurs.

Sam needs to go around to the other counties that aren't as successful.