F1 2023 thread

That's mad, you'd have to feel for DeVries. Not even half way through the season and he's been unceremoniously dumped. At 27 you'd have to wonder if he'll find a way back. The car is rubbish so we'll see what Daniel can do, I'm not expecting much, his McLaren stint suggests he's passed it but I'll be happy to be proved wrong.

The pressure is on now though, he's going to have to wrangle some performance out of a crap car and if he doesn't soundly beat Yuki who is fully embedded in that team then his F1 career is over for good.

This is F1 nothing for 2025 is guaranteed at this point, you can be sure that Lawson has nothing in writing to that effect. Ric needs to beat Yuki soundly and based on his form at McLaren that might be a high bar for him, especially if the car doesn't play to his strengths because one thing we learned about him from his stint in orange is that he struggles to adapt to a car that doesn't necessarily suit his driving style.

We also have to be aware that some tracks suit certain cars over others. Even Norris made reference to that with Austria and Silverstone bing tracks what would favour their car more than others. The AM loves slow speed corners, hence why it went well at Monaco and Canada etc. It suffers more in higher speed than the McLaren.

I think we will see it swing back and forth for the teams at each race...with the exception being RB of course.

We will see. I am all for Lando and Piastri doing well now and beating Aston just to see the smug smile wiped off Alonsos smug face and I am an Alonso fan.

De Vries is the second Toro Rosso/Alpha Tauri driver to be pointless in his time there.

Anyone remember the first?

Scott Speed?

Madness

That's an odd take, Danny Ric is a multiple F1 grand prix winner and Lawson is an unknown quantity when it comes to F1.

I do love a gulf livery

On Ricciardo and De Vries, I usually advocate for giving youth a chance over keeping older drivers who are not very good anymore but are familiar. But this case is different. De Vries has had his chance and it hasn't worked. Ricciardo was good but went cold in it's last few years.

He's worth another shot and Red Bull have found a low stakes way to give him another go. If he's worse than De Vries, then he won't score points but that's exactly what De Vries has done so there's no real risk.

He’ll have cleaner races than Devries anyway who has had a few crashes and penalties. But scoring points in that car will be a tall order, most weekends it’s a toss up between them and Alfa Romeo for the slowest car on track.