30k speed limits for all urban areas on the way

Right, so when it comes to cyclists, we rely on personal anecdotes, but when it comes to drivers, we look at the data points that suit us.

Got it.

You do seem to be the only one that hasn't noticed the decades of factual evidence of aggressive lawbreaking drivers killing two or three people each week on Irish roads.

Usually the same person has lots of them. coincidence?

What the latest status of these 30kph limits anyway.

Wow! Definetly one of Dublin's most unlucky persons to see all these marauding bicyclists being so aggressive with the law, are you walking in the Cycle lanes waving your hands about?

Do you go onto the Motorbike forum to complain about the gangs of feral youths speeding around housing estates across the country on untaxed stolen motorcycles with no driving licence or insurance..

Honestly it's tiring reading your posts over the last number of years, the same gripes and moans, if it was against a minority group you'd of been banned off Boards.ie long ago.

Most toddlers don’t look left and right when they’ve escaped their harness or buggy.

Parked cars shouldn't be there but they're not a threat to pedestrians when they're not moving...

Do you want their names or what?

Can you be specific about which cyclists are marauding you on the footpaths?

As to the cyclists that menace me on footpaths, I didn't get their names (though I think one of them is a regular poster here), but when the RSA last published statistics, there were 2.8 million people in Ireland with some kind of license/permit. Of that, 2.5 million were Full Category B license holders with the balance being other license types (A, A1, M, W) etc or learners permits. There are also some people driving in Ireland with licenses from other jurisdictions, e.g. the UK, the EU etc.

So how exactly do you define the "drivers" are you accusing of "killing 2 or 3 people every week?" All 2.8 million Irish license holders? Those plus the foreign license holders? Just the 2.5 million Irish Full Cat B license holders? How do all 2.5+ million of us decide who we are going to kill this week? Do we all meet in a giant meeting hall and vote on it every Sunday?

Perhaps you are blaming the infinitesimally small group of drivers that are actually culpable in fatal incidents (maybe 0.2-0.3% of the total). Or perhaps you are blaming all those who are involved in such incidents, regardless of cause. It's really unclear.

Last I checked, the name of this forum was "Commuting and Transport" not cycling (Which is thataway BTW). On this board I see a lot of gaslighting of pedestrians and unfair accusations against motorists. People are going to disagree with that.

I live in a city which has rolled out 20mph limits in the past couple of years. A great success and of course the usual grumbles from taxi drivers and others but overall people don't mind. I'd say the average speed would be 25mph as most go over the 20 limit but it's still alot less than before and of course safer.

In fact anytime I'm back in Ireland now I'm shocked at the speeds along similar residential roads that are 20mph where I live now. Whereas in Dublin people are still roaring down these types of roads. The sooner it's implemented the better in my opinion.

From my experience, lawbreaking by cyclists is damn near universal. Now back to your oft-repeated claim that "Irish motorists are killing 2 or 3 people every week.

Your position, if I understand it correctly, is that Irish motorists need much more draconian regulation and stringent enforcement of laws, starting with things like widespread 30kph speed limits because "they" (Irish motorists) are "dangerous" because they "kill 2 or 3 people every week."

Now, we know that there are about 2.8 million drivers in this country, give or take (some people driving on our roads with foreign license, some Irish license holders are expatriates who are driving in foreign countries with their Irish license). So how many of Irelands 2.8 million drivers are you including in the "killing 2 or 3 people every week" category? And how do all 2.8 million of us decide who we're going to kill every week? Do we all meet in a big meeting hall every Sunday and vote on it?