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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Weren’t the Taliban also backed by Saudi money, and the main reason they got into power was that their cruelty and barbarism restores a semblance of law and order after the civil war?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭yagan


    Two decades and the US made zero inroads. I'm sure there's Russian's who think that most ordinary Ukrainians wish to be liberated by Russia from cruel western control. Oh yes, this is the internet where I can use an anonymous account and say I've lived and worked in Afghanistan and Ukraine so I know what I'm talking about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,174 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    It's turning out exactly as I predicted, actually. I have always seen the war as a foregone conclusion. If Ukraine started making meaningful gains on the battlefield I'll happily reassess my opinion but I've seen nothing to suggest Ukraine is able to break Russian defensive lines and they are going to continue taking unsustainable losses in manpower and equipment.

    The reality now is that Ukraine cannot break Russian lines. It's not my opinion, that's just how things stand at the moment. With the best will in the world I don't see how that can change.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,616 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Also America 's authority in the world will be diminished if Russia is not seen to be decisively beaten in this war. This might be welcomed by left wing intellectuals, but not by many others, especially those with right wing views like yourself.

    If Putin holds on to any territory by way of a compromise he will spin that as a victory. It will also send a signal to other nations who may want to invade their neighbours that they can simply hold out till the west folds. America has to stay the course for this reason. So they won't be turning around at any point and telling Ukraine to compromise. They have simply invested too much politically to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    When the Russians were kicked out of Afghanistan, and all Russian influence at that time ended, that left a power vacuum that caused a civil war ( seems to be the standard thing) The fighting was really severe, the nightly ( and daily) barrage's of rockets and mortars into Kabul did massive damage. So when the Taliban arrived they were initially welcomed as they stopped the worst of the fighting and destruction. ( except in the North, where the population were largely Tajik, and the Taliban were fiercely resisted ) But as the Taliban showed their true colors, that acceptance change to resentment, and outright resistance, which the Taliban ruthlessly put down. In a sense, they behave very like Putin's Russian's. He uses the images and language of Hitlers Nazi Germany to convince them that Hitler 2 is coming, and only he can save them. The Taliban use a brutal version of Islam to terrorize and subdue the Afghan's. Same methods, different power source to enforce and control their respective population's. Same methodologies. As for Saudi money? I'm not sure about that, but would not surprise me in the slightest.. Allies of the US ( because of Saudi -Yemen war) but also helping their Taliban friends. For sure, Pakistan ( another erstwhile US "Friend and Partner" were helping the Taliban all their years in Exile. But why not? The Taliban were "born and bred" in Pakistan. But Pakistan needs to tread a very careful line with their Afghan Taliban now. Because Pakistan has a very large Pashtun population, related to their well armed Afghan Pashtun cousin's .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭yagan


    All the US seemed to have done in two decades is in Afghanistan is make a lot of military suppliers and contractors in jobs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Deub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Ok, yes I could be an imposter and hiding behind an anonymous account, but I'm not. But that's probably the world you live in. Falsehood and lies, is it? Thats not me, by a long shot!! So some facts just off the top of my head, you can easily check. What years were the worst famines in Chagcharan? And the name of its capital? (Hint ;- begins with the letter G) There's a very famous event happens every year in Herat, involving the wind. And the Nr 100 is very important regarding this event. The color Blue is very important in Herat , could you tell me why? In Taloqan there was also a bad earthquake one time. Can you tell me anything about that? Like who controlled the area? There were many bombings taking place in Kabul, but one in particular took place in a supermarket...killed and injured many people. See if you can dig up any info on that one. Also on Herat...There lived a very famous politician, and anti Taliban fighter. (They captured him and kept him chained up in the Taliban HQ in Kandahar until the US kicked them out and he was freed) So he's been back in Herat since, and is there now. His name is Haji Ismail Khan, a man that I've met several times. So see if you can dig up some info on him, OK? And I'll describe him for you then.

    Now yagan, I've lived in these places, and these events are just off the top of my head, but they're easily checkable. And If I ( and you) were betting or gambling men ( maybe you are ?? ) I would take as much money as you cared to bet that I am being untruthful. All of the above event's etc that I mention, I know about because I was there. I still have the Afghanistan ( and many others, inc Russian and Ukraine ) passport stamps on my passport ( an older one, but stamps still visible. Still want to imply that I'm just a lying anonymous Boardsie?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,732 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    It's depressing to hear about the Taliban rolling back so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You have obviously never even set foot in Afghanistan, and yet you consider yourself an experienced Afghan expert, WOW. Why are Afghans praying to Allah for the return of the US then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Tell that to Afghan girls who can no longer go to school (among other things).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, its heartbreaking especially after seeing great changes brought about by the US " occupation" Aside from the Marshall plan in Germany and Japan, its the first time I've heard of an occupying force actually improving the Country they invaded. Maybe there are others, I don't know, but if they are, they're pretty scarce on the ground. My Afghan friends tell me some pretty horrifying stories about what's happening there now. Though there's still some anger at the US, the majority of the anger is directed at the Taliban though. Afghans see the rights and wrongs of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭omerin


    How quickly we forget.

    If you think the Russians are the bad guys, and christ knows they are animals, I would implore you to watch Fahrenheit 911, from about an hour in , and view the US carry out war crimes, an absolute mirror image of what the Russians are doing today. The US soldiers and tank crews speaking in front of the camera like the "intercepted" Russian calls, dead kids and adults, kids limbs torn apart.

    War is ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Ah that's grand, sure in that case let's stop giving out about Russia's cruel invasion of a sovereign country and focus on bitching about one of the countries helping Ukraine to free themselves instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Read the thread title and it will tell you what this thread is about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    They have to take a chunk of the blame themselves. Well their military. They didn’t even put up a fight, they just rolled over and let the taliban leisurely stroll on in to Kabul. Superior equipment and training and not even a whimper. I’d be most pissed off with the afghani forces if I were them. I’m going off topic so I’ll shut up now



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    America did not invade Ukraine.

    Nobody here is either ignorant or naive with regards America's neo-colonial actions.

    However, America possesses the capacity for "doing better" and a modicum of checks and boundaries on its most powerful people. Russia does not, nor will it ever. It is a mafia state whose leader rolled the dice on accelerating the reformation of the USSR. After a colossal and desperate defence by Ukraine at the gates of its capital, the West woke up and armed them.

    America is bad, even Americans have switched on to that. They are, however, not prosecuting this war but basically fulfilling the lend-lease role once more in a battle for eastern Europe's right to self determination.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Due to you being so consistently wrong every time you post on political subjects, your opinion on Ukraine has given me the confidence to buy a non-refundable, first class ticket to the Crimea Beach Party. Cheers!!!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,367 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So this war has basically turned into trench warfare. Going to be a long and gruelling summer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭paul71


    I think the the absolute definative date Ireland was to leave/get kicked out the EU or was thrown under the Bus by the EU changed about 15 times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Potentially. But some footage released over the past few months appears to paint the AFU at being quite adapt at storming into Russian trenches and taking out its occupants. I suspect Russia's primary tactic at the moment is to fill the trenches with as many mobniks as they can grab off the street, and hope that the attirtion of fighting will buy them enough time until a Russia-friendly GOP administration is in the White House. In their minds, they might only need to hold out for an other year and a half. Then maybe Kyiv will have to accept a new Russian border....they hope....

    But beyond having numbers, minefields and WWI tactics, I don't think they have much left to hold back a motivated & well trained AFU attack. Based on what we saw during Wagner's advance on Moscow, the troops on the field in Ukraine is likely everything the Russian Federation has in terms of military. There's nothing left, and if any part of that frontline folds then you'll see Russian units getting encircled or having to run to Crimea / Eastern Luhansk in a despirate attempt to regroup.

    I feel it is just a metter of time now. The question is how much time, and will it be fast enough to make the next President of the US irrelevant to this fight?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The trenches are only on one side though - which is the key problem for Russia; 'cos a big flaw IMO with trenches is that once they're breached and the enemy pushes through, unless you stem the rupture your forces become quickly surrounded, the trenches utterly redundant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    It's such a frustration that Ukraine wasn't provided these from the start. It's the one criticism of the US I would have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Kadyrov doesn't appear to be on his death bed but he doesn't appear to be in rude health either





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Won't be long I'd say, very philosophical words. Must be full of medication, can barely open his eyes and looking very bloated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,784 ✭✭✭yagan


    Do you have to be an expert to see two decades were a waste?

    Where was the value?

    How would you argue that another two decades of occupation would "fix it"?

    I'm sure just as there's Russians who think they're liberating Ukraine from Nazis there's many a Brit who think Ireland should be entirely British.



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