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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Did he lie about pay cuts?

    My understanding is he's took nearly 40% cut from when his LLS contract first started.

    His base salary was cut as was everyone else's.

    RTE then decided to conjurer up a separate cooperate deal to increase RT's income

    So Yes, RTE failed to report the correct figures. Not RT.

    RTE is at fault. Not RT.

    Using the majority of the public as a measure of who's right and wrong in this is not going to be your strongest argument tbf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    6 people.

    A lot for such a wishy washy slot I would have thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321



    Were not a lot of people in RTE including on the board completely oblivious to what Tubridy was actually getting? Moya Doherty for example said she didn't know about the extra payments.

    This is the entire essence of this, the operation of a clandestine account to make clandestine payments that many if not most in RTE knew nothing about.

    You can't release what you don't know.

    In any case, Tubridy has to take ultimate responsibility for this mess. If he and his agent hadn't been so damn greedy none of this would have happened. Once they went down the road of requesting more money, knowing full well he had committed to a pay cut, it could only be done clandestinely. He bears at least 50% blame and to claim it wasn't his fault simply doesn't hold water.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    But but but, RT knew that it was being mis-reported. He knew the deal NK had agreed with RTE - which was designed to give the appearance that his income had been cut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Beefcake82


    The only "talent" most of them have is to talk shite and get overpaid for it. 🤣

    Honestly, most of them don't deserve to be paid more than 80k a year



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,198 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    He lied about the extent and percentage of the pay cuts. Does the percentage include these under the counter payments? No.

    He lies by omission (not correcting the reported figure) and by commission (below):

    Speaking in 2019 he said: “I’ve taken a pay cut before. I took over 30% the last time and they’ve asked for more again which will bring it up to about 45% or (so) since I took the Late Late Show.

    Turbidy is at fault here. This is what he said in his statement. So if he doesn't think that he is lying.

    RTE is also at fault. By Tubridy colluded in this.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/ryan-tubridy-previously-spoke-taking-30305048

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,886 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Recently he was spending most the show about me, me, me… insanely self-indulged



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    How can an organzation such as RTE not know what their top earner is earning?

    They had the wizard ex Dunnes stores finance director at the wheel as CFO.

    How could people not be aware what thier "stars" get paid?

    RT fooled them all ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Who cares if he knew or not.

    It's not his responsibility to disclose correct figures.

    It's RTE's



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Indeed. This debacle has shown that RT and his trusted advisor NK havent a scintilla of a scruple between them. Not only are they out to get as much money out of the tax payer as they can conceivably manage, they will happily give that tax payer the two fingers when they've been caught out.

    I wouldn't expect anything else from an agent, no morality in business and all that, but the fact that Tubridy himself, self style Irish Dalai Lama, signed off on that statement proves that he's as grubby as they come. And of course, lets not forget that we now know the shít hit the fan in early March. Forbes informed RT/NK and a lovely farewell bash was planned so he could exit the stage to applause instead of rotten eggs.

    I don't think Christ himself would have a go resurrecting Tubridy at this stage.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Unless and until RT appears before the PAC, suspicion that he knew more than he claims will hang over him.

    If he has nothing to hide, he will appear and clear his name.

    My guess is, like a lot of his apologists on here, he believes he is above the PAC, that's for the little people and doesn't have to account for anything. He thinks he can bluster his way out of it, hope it all dies down, and come waltzing back on air shortly.

    If he'd any backbone he'd appear at the PAC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    IF you're looking at his base salary the statements are true.

    RTE should have disclosed earnings from the separate operate gigs that THEY created to increase his income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He'd want to be mad to volunteer to appear in front of the PAC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    What he should do is.

    Turn up. Tell PAC his agent demanded X.

    How RTE get that X is nothing to fcking do with him.

    And go back to reading his shite books.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,262 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    You have thrown out a lot of buzz words there, but thus far they are only buzzwords as there is no legal weight to them.

    False accounting? It can be spun as creative accounting all done to get payments which those involved were contractually entitled to.

    Misuse of Public Funds? - can be spun as ‘Corporate Hospitality’ . Nothing really earth shattering that those involved with sponsors get match tickets dinners etc . Happens in every corporate industry.

    Concealment from board and public - is in itself not illegal

    Conspiracy to defraud? - There has been no clear case of illegal self enrichment

    -

    The only things RTE thus far has been guilty of is lack of oversight lack of corporate governance, and a culture of ‘them and us’ v rank and file and execs. Which all lead to a breach of trust, and extremely poor optics. Particularly with the public.

    To throw out the buzz words you throw out are nothing more than ‘pubtalk’ at best.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,836 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Off topic I know.

    Do we ever get an account of the amount of money RTE makes on those Late Late Show competitions that cost €2 to enter?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Sorolla


    PAC is a toothless tiger - I don’t think anything will come if it.

    Imagine only one former government minister was questioning the board yesterday - all others enjoyed their 15 minutes of fame.

    not one question made me any wiser than I was beforehand.

    the PAC is just for the optics - it’s high time our public representatives pay and their abuse of their expense accounts are investigated.

    sone of them yesterday were like Poncias Pilate

    absolutely pathetic waste of time



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I think his initial reaction/ statement said it all. That was, for once, the real Tubridy.

    He might have salvaged at least a semblance of his good name had he not reacted as he did.

    Wild horses wouldn't drag him in front of the PAC, I would say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,870 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I agree, and out of him, Noel Kelly and Dee Forbes, Tubridy would probably be the only one who would agree to appear at the PAC. He didn't arrange the details of the deal, didn't deal with the barter account, didn't deal with the invoices. He got paid the extra money through NK, and it was NK who was involved in the invoicing with RTE & the barter account.

    That said, the big questions to Tubridy would be about why RTE had to try get more money for Tubridy and arrange special deals. Was he threatening to not sign a new contract unless he got more money? As the deal with Renault was for public appearances and he was no longer doing those appearances, where did he think the extra money was still coming from? When was he made aware of the audit and was it a factor in him quitting TLLS?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    I care. I would guess I am not alone. He knew. He's complicit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    That's not how the PAC works. Every answer you give leads to 10 more questions. That's how they uncover the truth and who's bullsh*tting and who isn't.

    He will never work in RTE again unless he appears, so its a win-win either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    At the root of this sh1tshow, is that RT started to believe his own publicity, all the "Toyman" and whatnot cr*p. Big mistake, and it's brought down bigger fish than him in the past



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    It's how it worked for many yesterday

    "I'll repeat again. It's none of my fcking business how RTE meet my agents demands." *flicks page*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    Sure Tubridy himself admits he should have said something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Is he a class A fcking toss pot.

    Yes.

    Is he completely delusional.

    100%

    Is he worth 25% of what he gets paid

    Absolutely not.

    Is RTE's failings his failing?

    Not any day of the week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,198 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And the viewing public response is. I'll repeat it again. I never want to hear or see this amoral <insert word of choice> on TV or radio again.

    *flicks page*

    His career was his reputation. He destroyed it in this grubby little stroke. He lost the room (colleagues), he lost the country.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Sure that's true

    But as the DG confirmed yesterday. He's done nothing wrong.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    FFS, most of the words I threw out have been thrown out by others related to this case and in the PAC.

    There is nothing wrong with corporative hospitality. But when you bring along your spouse, that's where the problem starts.

    Putting a false declaration on an invoice for 150k for services that were never delivered, is fraud in the view of not only myself, but numerous others, including the current CFO of RTE.

    There is a difference between creative accounting and making a blatantly false declaration to auditors, cfos, the board and the public.

    Concealment is not a crime unless you conceal a fraud which is a crime.

    As for the level of pubtalk, I've seen no evidence you've decided to rise above that level yourself.



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