The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

MacDanger · 26-06-2023 08:48AM

Reasonably happy with the draw tbh. Hard to know where Dublin are, very average early in the season; drew with Roscommon and then two very straight forward wins against Sligo & Kildare where they looked similar to the Dublin of old - they haven't really been put to the pin of their collar yet but it remains to be seen if we're good enough to actually do that.

Drumpot · 26-06-2023 08:53AM

I’d worry the painfully tough Mayo v Galway game will really stand to them and Dublin just won’t be ready for the step up in quality.

Mayo favourites , Dublin need all their old guard to find form out of nowhere. Big ask… But hopefully they show up and it’s a classic. Maybe we can try and convince the Mayo lads it’s an AI final and then it’s a nailed on Dublin win!

26-06-2023 08:55AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766254#Comment_120766254

Maybe we can try and convince the Mayo lads it’s an AI final and then it’s a nailed on Dublin win!

But the thing is it's still only a quarter final, that's hard to believe.

I think I like the new system.

corcaigh07 · 26-06-2023 08:58AM

Brilliant draw for the neutrals I think, 2 big crowds in Croker next week.

Drumpot · 26-06-2023 08:58AM

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It’s mad.

Gotta say I’ve not been loving the idea of the new champo but there’s been some enjoyable stuff the last 2 weekends. Having the tailteann simultaneously gives you an option to watch a guaranteed more open game aswell which is nice.

Barlett · 26-06-2023 08:59AM

From a Mayo point of view this is the best draw, they needed a team to get Dublin where motivation won’t be an issue I mean it should never be, but it is for Mayo at times

blowitupref · 26-06-2023 09:02AM

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Didn't mention injuries, has been low scoring war of attrition contests from Galway all year, I brought this up before weeks ago that it could be their downfall when sailing so close to the wind but some Galway fans claimed they would adjust for whatever opposition they faced.

Decent draw this morning Derry,Kerry,Dublin,Armagh should be favorites but Mayo and Tyrone are capable of taking out the big hitters.

Drumpot · 26-06-2023 09:05AM

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I was in Croker for the semi final 2006. Possibly one of the worst defeats for me ever, alongside meath in 1991. I just can’t ever feel any Gra for Mayo , but on reflection them going to the hill at start of game in 2006 was a very shrewd move, wonder would they try that again? (Don’t think it would rattle this Dublin team).

Ironically that Dublin team were as flakey when it mattered in big games as Mayo have been in finals. I’d be really worried that Dublin have mostly shown f**k all for 2 years now (except being able to give kerry a game in semis last year) and people keep acting like it’s the dublin of old.

Id also be worried that the game at the weekend for Mayo was like Dublins against Donegal in 2011 that really stood to us in the final. A horrible game that could really stand to Mayo , particularly if the dubs game is close. Dublin have just not been on it too long, we need to click into form I haven’t seen against a top team in a long long time.

MacDanger · 26-06-2023 09:05AM

Derry 4/11 Cork 11/4

Amagh 1/2 Monaghan 2/1

Kerry 4/9 Tyrone 9/4

Dublin 8/13 Mayo 7/4

I think both Mayo & Tyrone are priced too high there, i'd have both as slight underdogs but only slight

MacDanger · 26-06-2023 09:06AM

Great chance for Armagh/Monaghan to make a semi final

Drumpot · 26-06-2023 09:08AM

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That’s ridiculous odds for Mayo, if I was a betting man, I’d snap the fingers off the bookies for Mayo

YabaDabaDooley · 26-06-2023 09:10AM

I can see the fixtures being

Sat

Armagh v Monaghan

Kerry v Tyrone

Sun

14.00 Derry v Cork

16.00 Dublin v Mayo

YabaDabaDooley · 26-06-2023 09:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766324#Comment_120766324

Not bad odds on Mayo. If you put €10 on Mayo at 7/4 you would win the sum total of €0.

recyclebin · 26-06-2023 09:13AM

We're Mayo looking a weekend ahead yesterday. Was very surprised to see Kevin McLoughlin and Jason Doherty start.

robbiezero · 26-06-2023 09:25AM

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I think the odds on Tyrone are just as mad. A team that Kerry always struggle with, not to mind in a year where they seem to be struggling for form and have yet to really have a significant win. Doubtless this will focus the minds and get them going, but Im not convinced they are good enough this year. 9/4 is big. Id have it as max 6/4.

Drumpot · 26-06-2023 09:28AM

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I hope you are right. But there’s been nothing from Dublin this year that suggests they deserve to be favourites. For all the talk of Mayo being poor, they’ve played alot more quality the last 6 months then dublin and dublin have been less then convincing more often then not.

breezy1985 · 26-06-2023 09:34AM

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Funny to see the division 2 champions favourites over the division 1 champions.

ShamoBuc · 26-06-2023 09:34AM

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I can see Kerry and Cork on the same day, not to have 3 Northern teams travelling down on the same day.

Bass Reeves · 26-06-2023 09:36AM

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Definitely the Kerry/Tyrone match will b Saturday and the Dublin/ Mayo Sunday. KT will be 7pm Saturday and DM 4pm Sunday.

The other two fixtures will be rearranged around this. It will depend on who they think will bring the smaller crowd that will be put opposite DM match.

Bass Reeves · 26-06-2023 09:38AM

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I be having Tyrone at the same odds as Kerry. Kerry has not beaten them in about 4 years in League or championship.

blowitupref · 26-06-2023 09:39AM

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Not a patch on the Jim Gavin teams, will still hammer teams that are poorly organised against them, Roscommon in the group stages and Kildare in the Leinster championship defended well against them and both could easily have won.

Decent odds on both Tyrone and Mayo to win. Mayo have beaten Dublin in their last two meetings, Tyrone have beaten Kerry in their last thee matches.

YabaDabaDooley · 26-06-2023 09:47AM

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I do expect us to win but you're right we haven't been impressive for most of the year so far. I give Mayo a decent chance. Hoping the extra weeks rest and the fact that it's Mayo will get the players juices flowing and we'll have enough to get over the line. I'll be snapping up a tickrt as soon as they're on ticketmaster. The old enemy will see a bumper crowd in Croke Park next Sunday.

eoinbn · 26-06-2023 09:47AM

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Kerry hammered them in the league in 2021 but proceeded to lose to them in the championship.

StupidLikeAFox · 26-06-2023 09:47AM

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I still think we have no real idea where Dublin are at. Roscommon drew with them alright but was that Dublin at full tilt? Next weekend will tell a lot about where they are at

YabaDabaDooley · 26-06-2023 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120766441#Comment_120766441

That was my thinking. I would say Derry v Cork would bring a smaller crowd than Armagh game so that would be the curtain raiser to Dublin game.

YabaDabaDooley · 26-06-2023 09:56AM

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You could be right. Should know soon enough.

gormdubhgorm · 26-06-2023 10:15AM

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I honestly would have Mayo favourites.Dublin all over the shop and if it is tight towards the end of the game Dublin can be 'got at'. Especially if Mayo build up steam, literally and figuratively. The Dublin backine very shaky. From a Mayo perspective you just have to worry about Fenton, Con O'Callaghan, Bugler, Basquel. The latter two have been having good seasons.

I think it is the worst draw for Dublin, barring Kerry. Dublin's style of play will suit Mayo very open.

As for the draw in general Cork and Derry will be happy drawing each other I would have that as a 50/50 job. Monaghan v Armagh it should be close given the familiarity - but I would expect Monaghan to edge it. Kerry v Tyrone - can only see a Kerry win.

Barlett · 26-06-2023 10:25AM

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Ah no Dublin are far too clever to be rattled by something like that now, they’d just go up the other end. Those were they days when a bit like ourselves, they fed off momentum & the momentum the Hill gave them . In fairness to JG, he made sure they never required that

FullBack Jam · 26-06-2023 11:10AM

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I'll be putting €20 on the double - Mayo to beat Dublin, and Tyrone to beat Kerry .

awaywithyou · 26-06-2023 11:26AM

anyone know how semi-final draw is going to work??

The 2023 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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