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RTÉ admits paying Tubridy €345,000 more than declared

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It is not but as I have said before:-

    1. RTÉ held of publishing their top earners on a number of occassion, in this instance they pubished 3 years in one year, remember these figures are 2 years old if they are release on time, RTÉ should release presenters fees in 2024 for 2022.
    2. Tubs and other presenters on the list know in advance that the are going to be published.
    3. RTÉ tippy-toe around the figures before publication, possibly releasing them to one or two jornos before being published.

    Tubs and even RTÉ may not have done anything legally wrong but they lied at a time when RTÉ has been continually looking for more funding and saying they have no money.

    And what happens if other presenters are also involved in similar schemes.

    Again to also point out that RTÉ do not release the pay of presenters on Indo productions e.g. Katherine Thomas most likely makes the top ten considering her presentation of Op Trans, The Voice and Ireland's Fittest Family in one year alone, indeed Ray D'Arcy had the potential to be one of the presenters in the top 10 considering his presentation of You're A Star in the 2000s.

    They lied and they begged.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭ZookeeperDub


    Just a memory of how good Tubridy was, he was a complete a-hole to her......


    https://lovin.ie/entertainment/the-stations-of-the-cross-but-its-ryan-tubridy-asking-jamie-lee-her-age



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    It is not whatabourery: It’s context. Scale 1-10 this situation is very low/minor; that’s all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    So what element of scandal is missing from this particular story?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    Has there been an explanation as to why a 'barter account' payment of EUR 230K was required for a payment of EUR 150K?

    "In its statement, RTÉ said two payments worth €150,000 in total were made to Mr Tubridy through a barter account in 2022. "

    "Inclusive of fees incurred through the process, this resulted in a cost to RTÉ of €230,760."

    What are the 'fees' that added EUR 80K?

    I assume it isn't VAT. Is it agent fee's paid to NK Management?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Has Tom had a chance to talk to Ian Keogh about this? He'd have an insight? as Far as I know Ian is on the boards remuneration committee!

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Always thought it a real made up argument, the guys from the Inbetweeners were often asked about their ages playing teenagers.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Come on now. I’ve been huge critic of his, but she came across a right dose here.

    yes, considered rude to ask a lady their age, but I think she over-played it. A simple no comment would have put Tubridy back in his box



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    We were misled by the headlines and the self-congratulatory "I'm so great, I'm taking a pay cut in solidarity with the poor people", except he didn't take a pay cut. He got the money back in an underhand and undeclared manner.

    I'm bemused at your difficulty comprehending this tbh.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,096 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    He had a separate deal/agreement with another party that RTE then had to honour. Nothing difficult to comprehend, and nothing scandalous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Not a hope. Would be a big F You to the public.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,739 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    A scandal involves somebody he is not a cheerleader of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,545 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    I'm not getting anything when I google him, have you a link to the story?

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Paul on

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 22,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Why did RTE, the state broadcaster reliant on public funds, agree to honour a third party agreement?

    Might it have been to pretend RT had his salary cut? And why might RT have gone along with it and kept shtum?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord



    I think you are being disingenuous with this response.

    From the RTE website:

    news/primetime/2023/0622/1390654-explainer-what-are-barter-account-transactions/

    "In exchange for a commercial partner paying Mr Tubridy for €75,000 worth of services in 2020, RTÉ was to provide the commercial partner with a credit note for – typically - advertising for the same value."

    Note the part about the 'credit note' that you failed to mention.

    The commercial partner was to pay Tubridy the EUR 75K, but then the commercial partner would receive a credit note for the same amount from RTE.

    I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of a credit note.

    In short, RTE was indirectly paying Tubridy the EUR 75K by getting the partner to pay the EUR 75K to Tubridy, then RTE would give the partner services (advertising) to the value of EUR 75K for free.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord


    If this is the case, it raised more questions - why is RTE paying a commission / fees to Tubridy's agent? Should Tubridy not be paying them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just home from a week away and there is a TV licence letter in the postbox. Sorely tempted to return to sender with a note on the envelope that I will only consider paying the fee when someone at RTE takes responsibility for this financial discrepancy.

    I'd end up in court though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Ignore it.

    Only when they call to the doors does the 30 days to get one kick in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,775 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah I would have no problem with a mass non-payment of the TV licence at this stage. These constant failures by RTÉ senior management to read the room need to be ended.

    I do value RTÉ current affairs and sport honestly, but for the rest, I'm not so sure anymore.

    If I was put on the RTÉ board tomorrow, my goals would be fourfold.

    1) Reduce the organisation to purely factual output. There is too much duplication of mediocre shite at the moment.

    2) Reduce the network to one TV station and one, or max two radio stations.

    3) Increase digital content to make up for some of this reduction in broadcast and make it suitable for the way so many people consume media today.

    4) Sell Montrose entirely and move the executive, news and current affairs to the City Centre. Any larger studio space that may be needed occasionally (and in the digital age I can't see it being often) there are commercial alternatives available in Bray, Limerick and Belfast, as well as further capacity coming in Greystones and Mullingar. Montrose is a luxury RTÉ can no longer afford and it must give back to the State and the people for some of its poor management decisions.

    If there is a market for Irish produced quality drama and comedy, as well as documentaries at the pricier end, then the commercial market will find the level, either through the existing streaming services, or through an Irish HBO model.

    Irish film and television production do not need the existence of RTÉ in its current form to flourish. They can and do aim higher. And I would cite Bad Sisters as an example. Best Irish production since Love/Hate and brilliantly done, all because Apple saw the quality and invested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,017 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you don't pay your taxes \ licence fee you might end up in court...

    But will any of the people who recklessly spend that money, in breach of policy and procedure... money was being given out here for nothing.

    I think we know the answer.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    I’ve seen tons of little bits during my Google search but came up against paywalls. Busy as feck atm so didn’t try that hard, but saw enough to realise I had been fooling myself into thinking BK is a cool enough guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Except Tubs didn't provide any services to the commercial partner after the first year,but continued to receive payments that were guaranteed by RTE.

    Call me cynical,but there's a stink coming from somewhere.



  • Posts: 24,207 ✭✭✭✭ Iker Wrong Trainer


    Re TV license, I once ended up with a thick inspector banging on my apartment door. He had said he was from A Post (showed ID on intercom) and had parcel to deliver into the porch area. I duly let him in. Next moment a bell on my door, he saw the TV and asked me to show license. I said “why are you asking me that when it is on your records I have one?” Then he read out a name and address and said there is no license recorded. The name was of a person in another block on another road. Talk about breaking GDPR, I now knew the same & address of somebody and that there was no license in record for them whether it or not they had a telly. They really are on fairly thin ice legally re how they gain access to people’s homes to “discover” a TV set.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,630 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Why would RTE have to honour a deal Tubridy made with another party? I'm finding it difficult to comprehend actually and so is the nation.



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s no real surprise, when you spend all day (an hour a day and 2 hours on a Fri) pontificating to people and then end up getting caught by the bolloc it generally blows up , like scholfield



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I mean on the face of it they wanted to guarantee their poster boy an extra income. Possibly negotiated by his agent.

    Anyhoo looks bad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,008 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Given that a fake story about fake tan being cultural appropriation got the same treatment I wouldn't put much store in any of the above



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