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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    The one positive is that it isn't in Castlebar - I would give us more of a chance of beating Galway in Salthill than at home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    From a Cork perspective, a lot depends on what happens next - if ye can go on and beat Roscommon in PUC, ye'll have beaten 2 D1 teams in a row and while ye probably won't be considered contenders this year, ye'd be among the favourites to get promoted next year and hopefully give Kerry a good game in Munster. If ye lose to Roscommon though, I think this game will be looked at as a flash in the pan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Galway v Mayo is a good draw for both teams - the local rivalry makes it a bit easier for both management teams to get the players mentally focused on the game. It'd a huge ask for either to win Sam from here though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Squatman


    i dont disagree, really. i don't think we disrespected them, however, MAyo just wore the clock down in the first half. same as louth. then when they put the pressure on, they realised that cork too, only wore the clock down in the first half. if mayo played football in the first half, I think fitness would have carried us thru, as it happens, we relied on skill, and it turns out, we don't have it, Why in gods name did AOS lob a high ball into a square, where there was no aiden o shea in there to catch it.? beggars belief.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd


    Replying to my own post here, but something not to be ignored from yesterday when look at the pitch size list:

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    Pearse Stadium has 1,800sqm more pitch than either Limerick or Castlebar. The lack of width especially huts us when playing against a blanket.

    Given we play in McHale more than anywhere we should be able to get over that problem though



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I think you and many other Mayo fans, just can't accept that Cork on yesterdays game were the better team. We scored more in the first half and second half. We all know in Cork that our football team aren't world beaters and if they win next weekend we can't expect them to go much further. We don't have enough quality players. But in fairness they gave Kerry a bit of a scare as well and could have won that game on another day.

    Mayo have had great footballers on disposal since 2012 and the fact they have never won an All Ireland with all the chances they got, suggests to me that something is seriously wrong in the setup. They really need to start getting in a top sports psychologist into the setup, pay money for it and address the reasons why Mayo are always coming up short even when they have been good enough to win. Don't mind Cork we don't have the good players you have right now or since 2011.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,601 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    You see exactly disrespect. Cork could have beat Dublin in the league this year except for the referee. There loss against Derry in the first league game along with the Dublin loss scuppered there chance of promotion. Yes they list to Clare in the Munster championship.

    However there performances against Louth and Kerry should have been a warning. They should have beat us and we're unlucky not to. I actually fancy them against Roscommon especially in Cork. They are a hard running team and have a few decent forwards. Cleary has seemed to have sorted out some of the set up there.

    That is not the first or second time Aidan O Shea made an error in a match. 2016 AI final he did exactly the same with a sideline ball. He was never a natural freetaker and why he was put on them is a question. As well you have to ask why COC was not on the bench if he was good enough to play a club match he was good enough to be on the bench.

    Did AOS get instructions to go for goal or was it just he did not put enough power on it to get it over the bar

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam



    The very end of the match would have me slightly worried. Aidan O'Shea is good on the frees that are from a tight angle around the 21 yard line, and does a great job in curling them over. But at the end of the day, Ryan O'Donoghie is our set free-taker. Taking a free on the last play of the game and needing the free to go over, involves a lot more variables than just the skills to do it. Nerves will play a part. A player would need to have been in the position with experience on how to handle those nerves and keep composure. The free was slightly to the right, but well within Ryan O'Donoghues limits. Aidan gestured over to the line, and it seems they gave him the go-ahead. I know hindsight is great, but I think management should have known better.

    Alternatively, I would be even more worried, if they advised him to toss the ball into the square and hope for a goal . 1. that they should have known a point would have brought us to second in the group. Whilst that is not ideal, it would be better to have a home tie against the likes of Tyrone or Monaghan. They should have had one person labeled with keeping fully up to speed on the scores from all matches, and the possible permutations. And 2. if they were going for goal, that they had our biggest player taking the free, and not having him as the target man. That would be beyond belief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Absolute nonsense! You said there is something wrong in the setup as if the setup has been constant since 2012.

    As for a sports psychologist; do you honestly believe that Mayo haven't got one.

    By the way, everyone here accepts that Cork were the better team yesterday. No one is denying that. What people are saying is that Mayo are objectively a better team (i.e. D1 vs D2) and because of that it's hugely disappointing they didn't win especially seeing as they were 6 points up. It's not a slight on Cork, rather a poor reflection on Mayo management and players.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd


    You have to think he got the instruction to go for point as otherwise he should have been inside. If not it shows on field decision making under pressure is well off. If the instruction did come from the sideline it should have been for Ryan or Reape to take it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Keegan was the real great footballer - we only had one and a few tipped into that area for periods, the rest were good footballers. That is why we lost every final. It was probably a lack of quality in certain positions that cost us eventually, that is why we were so close. The extra bit of quality we required in goals, full back, forwards over the years etc. It was a very thin lack of quality but the impact of this lack of quality was huge.

    Cork were better yesterday, no doubt but it wasn't because of Cork were outstanding. It was because we didn't do the basic defending and the game sung to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    "Cork could have beat Dublin in the league this year except for the referee."

    Such pointless debates on here.

    Mayo would have beat Cork if their full back got sent off for the hammer fist to the head!

    It's not disrespectful to Cork saying Mayo were favorites yesterday and should have won when 6 points up.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Seadin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RedDevil55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,892 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Completely separate, massive weekend in club football. Parke got the win v Charlestown, beat them handy, should be enough to keep them up, huge result for them, should put them right in the running for the inter championship given how young they are. 


    Davitts beat Breaffy well, again should be enough to let them finish second from bottom at least, they'll beat Kiltimagh in the playoff. 


    Looking like Charlestown v Breaffy in a relegation playoff. 



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Seadin


    " It's not disrespectful to Cork saying Mayo were favorites yesterday and should have won when 6 points up"


    I'm just saying that game is 70 mins long not 50 mins. In that time Cork scored 1-06 without reply from Mayo. How do Mayo think they deserve to win when they allowed that amount of scores without adding to the scoreboard themselves? Afterall sure Cork are a poor and average D2 team as stated by someone on here.


    Just saying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    Can you please point out who said Mayo deserved to win yesterday?

    This is a Mayo discussion forum and people are going to discuss the fact that Mayo gave up a 6 point lead to lose by 3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Jesus no one is saying Mayo deserved to win 🙈

    What people are saying is that Mayo should be beating Cork.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I totally agree. I don't disagree with you on that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,124 ✭✭✭crusd


    What are people views on bringing young lads (7&9) on the terrace in Pearse Stadium? Would expect a big enough crowd for this one and pretty sure the stand will be taken by season tickets. In my experience once you get much over 16k mark in Salthill the terrace is not the most comfortable spot, especially on the sideline and Rockbarton road end. Maybe behind the goal on the Threadneedle road end?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    2pm on Sunday according to PP website



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    From what I could see McStay was telling him to drop it in short.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Squatman


    Yea. The last kick was intentionally dropped short. Aos should have been playing puck in the square to get a goal, not taking the free. For which he has been notoriously bad at in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    McStay has confirmed that AOS was told to go for the point, that they knew it would be enough to finish second. He just left it short



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    Brought one of mine when he was 7 or 8 to Galway v Mayo in 2017 or 2018, can't remember

    No bother, was in the Threadneedle RD terrace, no space issues or anything not too packed at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭HBC08


    This is the draw I think a lot of Mayo fans wanted.

    Its sh1t or get off the pot now.

    Limping over the line against somebody like kildare would not give us the momentum we need.

    The focus shifts immediately from yesterday's shambles.This team need a big performance to rebuild a bit of trust between fans and team and for themselves.

    The negatives for a Mayo point of view.

    Galway will want revenge for league final and regular league game.Galway and their manager really dislike Mayo.They are one of the best teams in the country and many peoples favourites to win Sam.The cycle of the team and management was primed for them to lift the big one this year.We have played badly in the last two games and have some glaringly obvious problems, we can't break down defensive puke football,Galway have always played this against us since Kevin Walshs time.We are being carved open down the centre regularly, the experiment at CHB has not worked.

    The positives

    I was worried before the draw that it would be hard for Mayo to mentally get up for this game,after drawing Galway I'm no longer worried about that. The game is in Salthill, we have a decent record there against them,certainly better than MacHale Park.We seem to have a full squad to pick from,Galway have some serious injury concerns and they don't have the squad depth to deal with that.The have to be a bit crestfallen about the situation they find themselves in,they really didn't want to draw us,PJ will be fuming.His hatred of Mayo is a weakness too,he's overly emotional at times. Cillian should be back in for this game.

    Mayo always seem to perform when backs are against the wall.

    Whatever about the result I think we should enjoy this occasion, there's been lots of shadow boxing and questionmarks about whether teams are showing their full hand,one eye on the next game etc in this new format.

    There's no calculators needed for this,it's the biggest rivals in do or die championship.This game could influence the future of these teams for the next couple of years,this is huge.

    I firmly believe Mayo will win this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    From the Independant:

    "McStay said everybody on the bench was aware of the importance of Aidan O’Shea free deep in injury time. Had he pointed, Mayo would have clinched second place in the group on score difference.

    Instead, Cork’s three-point winning margin meant they finished level on points and scoring difference with the Rebels but lost out because they scored less. Kerry’s big win over Louth meant they topped the group on scoring difference.

    “It wasn’t to be,” said McStay.

    “I mean it was a very dangerous free actually. It was kind of under-hit. If someone got a flick to it, it could’ve ended up anywhere. The point would’ve been a nice one but I’m not pointing the finger at anybody on that play."



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