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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭DataDude


    It’s unusual but not unheard of. Some sellers will only want to sell to cash buyers. We had multiple house where we were bidding for ages against a cash buyer. We ended the highest bidder but the cash buyer still got the house and we were just used to extract the most money from them. We never had a chance.

    Your scenario actually seems more decent and less greedy. They got the price they wanted from the people they wanted. They didn’t waste your sisters time and get her hopes up unnecessarily for a house she was never going to get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    I just find it odd that a vendor would accept a bid without knowing that the other party weren't asked if they wanted to counter off. As I said my sister was going to counter offer 482,500 but we're never given the opportunity. That could have forced cash buyer up to 485,000. Why accept a bid when the other party have not yet signalled they are pulling out.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Probably because they just wanted the cash buyer.

    I did the same when selling my old house, the bidding was dragging and in the end there were 2 bidders left, one cash buyer and one mortgage. I just took the cash buyer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    They've accepted a bit which is about 60k under market price. Three bed, 102sqm turnkey apartment listed at 400k. Two bed 80-85 sqm in the last month same block were selling for 410 to 420k. Which would put value of the three bed north of 500k. I just find it interesting that 1) the EA was lost it totally undervalued and 2) present an offer to vendor without confirming that it was not the final bid or that one other party was still interested in bidding. My sister was going to go over 500k on it, but was never presented the opportunity. She's going to request confirmation from the EA/vendor that her bid was presented to them.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    You think the apartment was worth 500,000. That's your opinion. I'm not sure one more small bedroom in an apartment would be worth nearly 100,000 to everyone!

    The sellers took 470,000 cash. Sounds fair enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭DataDude


    Not sure I’ve ever heard someone complaining about a homeowner selling their house for too little 😂. Sound like decent people of strong morals who were happy with the price they got and didn’t want to drag your sister through a bidding process she couldn’t win.

    If your sister is that keen, I’d drop a note in the door direct to the owners saying she’s happy to offer €510k or whatever. The EA won’t engage further once property is sale agreed, it’s against their code of conduct.

    An extra 12k probably won’t sway the seller. But an extra €50k might cause them to think again about only dealing with cash buyers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Deub


    There will be no property crash.

    Bold statement to make because no one knows what will happen. To the OP, go to a EA, see what the valuation is and go from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    In the last month alone in the same block a 140sqm sold for 750k (5,350 per sqm) 80sqm sold for 420k (5,250 per sqm) this one was 102sqm for 470k so 4,700 per sqm. Just seems odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    Exact same apartment in the block was listed by a different EA this month at 475k and sold for 525k. This apartment was listed at 400k and sold for 470k. Just doesn't add up. Shall wait and see whether the EA communicated my sister's bid to the vendor or was the vendor told that the cash bid of 470k was the only bid left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭ingo1984


    Incorrect, code of conduct states that the EA is legally obliged to communicate bids to the vendor even if it has gone sale agreed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    The cash buyer could have easily hand the EA a brown envelope with 5k cash to sweeten the deal and say hey the other bidder stopped bidding... Meaning your sister.

    The EA need a big wake up call, they act like they personally own all housing stock in Ireland. The process of bidding is not transparent at all, and relies on one person EA.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    A more likely answer is the seller was happy with the offer and took it. Maybe they were under pressure to sell and didn't want to drag on for another few weeks.

    My parents were the same, they had a price they wanted to sell at, and once they got it the deal was done.

    Cash buyers are always preferred.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Ya the EA should have communicated the higher cash bid, but after that - nothing really to see here once the seller was happy with such a cash bid.

    Poor form for the EA to be wasting your sisters time as all it would have taken is a 2/3 min phone call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    I would get another survey done and go to the house with him when he is doing it. Ignore the velux. Its not an issue. You will never be told to remove it. Dont even apply for retention.

    On the kitche roof, most surveyors cover their own arses when it comes to flat roofs or anything like that. Ask a new surveyor directly when you are in the kitchen with him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    I know someone who accepted a buyer with a lower bid because the couple buying the house grew up in the area and vendors liked the idea of a kid that used to live there coming home and settling back into the area rather than someone that the neighbours didnt know at all.

    This seller wanted to make life easy for the neighbours they were still friends with, more than wanting more money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    Viewed on Wed. a house in Swords at 485k..had think about it over the weekend. Our AIP is 515. I was so naive. First bid 520 and currently at 531. Guess the daft search filter and my expectations needs to come down a fair bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    I was talking to her last night. EA advised her to put the house back on the market with a price drop of 10%, but to expect to get 20% more than that which is far more than the price it was sale agreed for before. It was a strategy to get people in the door fast as the owners of the house she is buying are getting tired of waiting now and are going to pull the plug. Seems to be working as there are full viewings coming on Friday and Saturday. She said she the EA is going to wait a week after that for bids and then ask all the bidders to send in their final bids for the following week to get the sale done.

    This is a house that was sale agreed 3 times and fell through in the last year and a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Another example of the arrogant neck of the EA. So this house failed sale agreed 3 times.... But EA reckon he will have few bidders then ask for their final bid then choose... What about they may have one offer the asking price and that is it or have two offers below asking price.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    The last withdrawal was because the house cant get fibre. The one before that the buyer didnt have the funds they said they had when it came to drawing down the mortgage. According to what I was told the EA says prices have gone up in the area since it was first sale agreed so she should expect to sell at the current worth of the house. I'll post back when i hear how it ended up.

    She did tell me that unless its a person without a house to sell now, it doesnt matter what the bid, they will go for the buyer with no house to sell. And even if its the same as the previous offer or a bit lower she will take it if the bidder is solid and free to buy. She instructed the EA to tell everyone looking at the house the reasons why the sales fell through before so they know the story if they are bidding.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden




  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Well I'm asking for a friend who may not have a house to sell.......😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Bluefox556


    Anyone recently get a Valuation report done with AIB? Booked it on the morning of the 6th of June.

    They said it takes 7-10 working days. Today would be the 10th working day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    They've probably done it already and are just writing it up. Or its in transit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Bluefox556




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭J_1980




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Contracts signed for a new build, still with our solicitor and not signed by the developer yet.

    We received a provisional BER of A2 with the booklet of title and this is what was advertised on Daft.ie (ad since taken down).

    I've just spotted that the developer's auctioneer has posted about another property in this development now available, same size and type. I was thinking they might have had someone pull out so they have readvertised.

    Strange thing is the rating is now advertised as A3.

    Can anyone advise on what might have happened here, where I stand with my provisional cert and my best course of action here to investigate?

    I'm thinking i'll say it to my solicitor anyway. My concern is what might have dropped the rating in the space of time from their provisional cert of A2 to the A3 now being advertised. Nothing has been mentioned to us and i'm a bit concerned.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    There is absolutely no difference between A2 and A3 rated houses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 angbee


    Could just have been assessed by a different assessor or have slightly different layout that affected the BER. I wouldn't worry too much about the difference between A2 & A3 both are quite high in terms of energy efficiency and both qualify for green mortgage discounts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    Mate of mine is 2 solar panels (or it might be more. I think he said 2) and a few lightbulbs short of an A2. He is obsessed and is paying €600 to get the 2 new panels fitted and has changed all the lightbulbs. Now he will pay for the guy to come back and give him his A2. Wonder how much the A1 will cost him.



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