The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

I'm aware of the differences. They pale in comparison to the differences with Dublin though. Population alone was always grounds for a 2-way split. The other advantages the GAA has provided over recent decades means a 4+-way split is now preferable.

IM also aware of the population differences, they dont pale in comparison to Dublin . they are huge in fact . Cork Antrim Down have roughly over

10 times the population advantage over Leitrim . Longford . Carlow etc . its clear you only wont to weaken Dublin so your own County benefits

Guess what it aint gonna happen and your fooling no one .

In the event of a Dublin split . Cork Antrim Down Galway etc will also have to be split along with possible mergers

Dublin take pride in there achievements thanks for your concern though ,your anti Dublin views are Laughable , but thanks for the entertainment

Its been asked many times before , so id be amazed if you get an answer

This debate was started ten years ago by disgruntled posters back then who were only interested in the success of their own county. It really hasn't moved on since, with the same huge flaws in their argument for change exposed time and again and ignored.

Splitting Dublin won't improve the chances of Leitrim winning an All-Ireland, neither will it improve the chances of Carlow winning a Leinster Championship. The smaller counties know that.

It only helps three to four counties to have a better chance of winning a Leinster or an All-Ireland.

It doesn't improve the game, it doesn't change anything about the game, except it lowers standards.

If you want to improve competitiveness, and the state of the game, you don't lower standards by splitting Dublin, you improve standards by amalgamating other counties.

It helps all counties. It improves the fairness and integrity of the All-Ireland competition by ensuring that the current unfair advantages Dublin enjoys are dispersed among 4+ teams rather than concentrated in a single one at present. Therefore any team who participates in the All-Ireland competition benefits. It raises standards by increasing fairness. I agree voluntary amalgamations would be beneficial, along with a mandatory split of Dublin.

It does not raise standards if you hobble the best team, it lowers standards, and allows lower standard teams to win.

Amalgamations are required first before any split. Amalgamations raise the standard of competing counties.

One other aspect of the amalgamations/split considerations must be the unfairness of the status quo- as Dublin are uniquely unfairly advantaged, it's far more important to deal with them first.

Dublin probably aren't the best team anymore- they are definitely the most unfairly advantaged, but not the best. So the highest standard won't be lowered. And definitely as fairness within the competition is massively enhanced with a split of Dublin, the overall impact on standards will be very positive. The status quo should never have been allowed to develop, that is the main issue.

There are no lies or ulterior motives from people arguing for a split of Dublin- just a desire to do what is right for the game. It's been explained repeatedly how a split will help all counties, including Dublin, and the logic is sound. But there are lies about are from Dublin supporters who will use questionable, illogical and inaccurate arguments to deny that Dublin are unfairly advantaged in any way, when if any other county was receiving those benefits, they'd be the first to criticise.

But they wouldn't be split unfairly- it'd be very fair, far, far fairer than the situation we have now. And rather than one juggernaut who are unfairly advantaged, we'd have four or more decent divisional sides which would improve standards within Dublin, Leinster and beyond.

As mentioned before, a split benefits all counties by improving the fairness and integrity of the competition- therefore any team who takes part in the competition benefits. If you think divisional sides would be too dominant, it is an argument for more splits, not to continue with the current situation of an unsplit Dublin team.

It doesnt help all Counties , it would only help 3-4 Counties , Cork Down Galway etc have unfair advantages over Leitrim Carlow Longford etc

in the interest of fairness and integrity these Counties would have to be split also

I also agree amalgamations would be beneficial

It wouldnt raise the standards as the competition still wouldnt be fair , Counties with over 14 times the population of Leitrim and Carlow

no fairness in that

They would be split unfairly , several other Counties would have to be split also in the interest of fairness

As mentioned before a split would only benefit a 3-4 Counties

The reasons have been outlined many times already. But once more I will do it for you.

Dublin are unfairly advantaged relative to every other county. The main advantages are their enormous population, massive funding from the GAA and others, home pitch advantage, amongst others. While there are some discrepancies between counties, the nature, scale, combination and duration of the advantages Dublin enjoy are completely unique to them. They may not win the All-Ireland every year, but they are definitely unfairly advantaged.

As these advantages have been entrenched for decades, the best way to help combat them is to split Dublin into 4 or more teams in order to disperse the benefits among multiple teams, rather than concentrate them into 1 (this will have the added benefit for Dublin GAA of allowing more players challenge for Sam Maguire and getting intra-county derbies to develop, but this is just a pleasant side effect).

This will improve the fairness, prestige and integrity of the All-Ireland competition as there will no longer be one single team who are insanely advantaged vs. everyone else. Anyone who participates in the competition will therefore also benefit as the improved fairness, prestige and integrity will apply to all competitors. This includes all counties except Kilkenny.