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Phillip Schofield steps down from ITV after affair with "much younger male"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    And how do the photos in that article translate to "There is photos circulating of Holly with Phil and Matthew, I believe one is from outside NTAs where Phil and Matthew were fighting and he is asking Holly to intervene"

    The article itself states:

    "Phillip Schofield appeared in high spirits as he and Holly Willoughby were snapped alongside a young male employee.

    It has emerged that the younger man in question is believed to be the person at the centre of Phillip's affair drama – despite the TV host previously insisting rumours were false"

    There are bound to be numerous photos with the three of them. He worked on the show. But where's the photo or proof showing Phil and Matthew fighting and him asking Holly to intervene?

    Look, there are many scummy things about the entire situation, but some of the claims and insinuations you keep making just obfuscate things.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,729 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    He worked with them. How is that news to you?

    Also why would I think bad of them if they had a threesome?



  • Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭reclose


    What do you think he knew about the brother?

    He was forced to resign over the work thing. Surely that satisfies you on that one? What more can be done?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,431 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No I think the misconduct is such he shouldnt just be able to walk away from This Morning into a similiar gig.

    As Ive explained on the thread that I think his reaction to the brothers revelation was inconsistent - that it must 'never' happen again. Strange language to use about behaviour supposedly legal and consensual without any 'position of responsibility' aspect.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Wayne Rooney was cheating with granny prostitutes, did his agency or Manchester United drop him

    Did George Michael's agency drop him from his toilet exploits (I was going to use encounters but it is a frowned upon word here)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,729 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Rooney played with Everton at the time. Didn't stop United paying 30 odd million for him.

    George made a joke out of it and got a hit record.

    OF course that was pre cancel culture and the dribbling internet mob..

    It took a dead body floating in a pool to finish off Barrymore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Not to mention neither Rooney nor George Michael's actions affected their job or were in their workplace.

    As I said earlier, Schofield had an affair with someone at their job, lied to Holly (as both he and Holly have said) which effectively ended their working relationship, lied to his management agency, and then the issue with his brother and what he knew. All of which effectively ended his career. That's more than enough reason for his agency to drop him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Also as Phil said himself

    "Then I saw the link with the drama school photo all those years before, and thought, 'this looks shocking'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    That's neither evidence nor an admission of anything. That's just acknowledgement that there's a photo of him with a group of children, <snip> being one of them, from years ago, taken at a local drama school he was a patron of.

    Your points are all based on insinuations and implying things for which there is no evidence. You keep linking back to that Limegoss site, which a quick Google shows used to be called 'The Tattle Blog'. Also has a spin-off forum site, which gets great reviews....

    Again, there is plenty of scummy behaviour to criticise Schofield for in all of this. But throwing out the accusations you repeatedly have with no real evidence just confuses and obfuscates the discussion.

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    He hardly meant shocking good so was shocking bad even Phil himself admitting that



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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Shocking because people are accusing him of having groomed the lad since he was 12, and there's a photo of Schofield with the lad when he was 12 (again, as part of a group photo with many others).

    Or are you implying that Schofield saying that photo is shocking is him actually admitting to having groomed him since he was 12, something which I should point out, nobody else is reasonably claiming. Not even the tabloids are trying to claim "Schofield admits to grooming child by saying photo of them together is shocking"

    Again, you're reading into these things what you want to read into them. Actual or very reasonable evidence comes out that Schofield groomed him and his agency, Holly etc all knew.... fire them all and open a police investigation and prosecute them all to the fullest extent of the law. "He said photo of them is shocking and his management agency dropped him even though Wayne Rooney's agency didn't drop him", that's less than nothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I am not saying Phil groomed him or not but Phil acknowledged himself that the photo was shocking, it did not look good him having an affair with a boy he knew when young and whom he helped get into ITV and This Morning and went on social outings joined by or arranged by friend Tim, did Phil help any of the other kids in the charity group?

    I am sorry but I do think it looks bad, we know ITV "again" and also MPs are investigating



  • Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭reclose


    So removed from this job isn’t enough punishment. He must never work in a similar role again? So punished forever basically for consensual sex with a subordinate.

    I would tell a brother the same thing if he masturbated watch porn with a 16 year old. It’s legal but morally wrong to me.


    Are you able to see that as a possibility at all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Phil said his brother also was describing the boys body to him, that is just sick and wrong and deserved more that a scolding of don't do it again and I would think the same of an older dude with young girl or older lady with young boy



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It didn't look good regardless, but you're implying and inferring rather than proving (or at least reasonably demonstrating).

    Also the MP's aren't "investigating", they'll question higher-ups from ITV about practices, rules for employees, hiring etc, because ITV receives public funding. They're not investigating Schofield himself, and as far as I'm aware there are no actual legal investigations currently against Philip Schofield regarding his relationship with the young guy. ITV have hired a barrister to review the situation and their previous investigation with regards to employment law.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,508 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ITV's previous "investigation" was just asking both parties were they together which they answered no, I thought now a full investigation was underway

    "ITV launches external inquiry into Phillip Schofield affair to save This Morning" from Daily Mail



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    I assume OFCOM will be doing the legal end and if finding pass it on to the relevant. Then it could even go to a public enquiry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    ITV are going to be investigating ITV. Were correct guidelines followed? Were the correct people asked the correct questions? Did Schofield use undue influence to try get someone hired who shouldn't have been hired? Were peoples concerns given the proper time and consideration? Did ITV move the guy to another show because they knew something was going on between him and Schofield? etc etc. ITV aren't going to start crawling through private messages between Schofield and the guy about the beginnings of their relationship, nor do they have any investigatory or legal ability to do so. ITV are a workplace with no power to investigate anything but their own internal practices, actions and policies. They've launched an external inquiry by an independent person to review if what everything ITV did was correct with regards workplace and employment laws, not Schofield's actions from the past 10+ years. They're protecting themselves, not investigating Schofield's behaviour as a whole.

    If something did come up which demonstrates Schofield may have broken a law, then that info would be passed to actual legal authorities for review/investigation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭reclose


    Yes. He also said the boy was 16. which is the age of consent in the UK.

    What more could Philip do?



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,729 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    He told him not to do it again, which certain individuals have a major problem with on here for some bizarre reason.

    He then gave a witness statement to the crown.

    After the verdict he publicly disowned his brother.

    Not so sure what else he could actually do TBH.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,431 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It was professional sexual misconduct and abuse of his position. So yes, he should never be in such a position again. Punishment forever? Yes, if you make a major employment related error the consequences can be with you - and there are valid reasons why they should be with you - for the rest of your professional career. What Schofield did was morally wrong but more than that - professional misconduct.

    If he wants to go off travelling and video blog it and do YouTube channel for ad clicks that's his business. Or I dunno, host commercials where he is just a presenter but has zero input into production hiring etc etc.

    You don't see the contradiction? What the brother did was "legal and consensual" - at least how he described it. So he must NEVER do it again? This coming from PS who is sexually involved with similar age gap, where the other party was just a few year older than the age the brother described?

    Oh and the child the brother abused was in fact 13, not 16. It doesn't seem a stretch to consider that in how Schofield's brother described the boy the possibility that he was actually underage was considered by Schofield.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    His co host Holly is reported to have problems with Schofield in relation to the brothers situation.. was it was her association with the Schofield name that spooked her....



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,349 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "ITV BOSSES HAVE said both Phillip Schofield and his younger lover “repeatedly denied” allegations of a relationship until the former This Morning presenter departed ITV and formally apologised.

    ITV chief executive Carolyn McCall faced questions from MPs alongside ITV managing director Kevin Lygo and general counsel and company secretary Kyla Mullins about Schofield’s exit during today’s Culture, Media and Sport Committee session in Parliament.

    McCall told MPs the “imbalance of power, the imbalance of dynamics” made the relationship “deeply inappropriate”, and ITV would have taken action, but no evidence of the relationship appeared during on-going reviews.

    She said “we were repeatedly told nothing was happening”, and both men denied it “both formally and informally”.

    “There was only hearsay and rumour and speculation … Nobody on the board would have turned a blind eye to something as serious as this,” she said."



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,715 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Mainstream and respectable media are not naming the other party here

    Can posters please respect that and avoid naming him

    Any questions please PM me - do not respond to this warning in thread



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,972 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Did Schofield's brother tell PS that he was in an intimate relationship with a 13 year old or a 16 year old?



  • Registered Users Posts: 54,972 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I juts realized that this PS affair/situation is actually being discussed in the UK parliament. The world is absolutely bonkers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,872 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Does it make a difference? Do you have different scales of nonce? Is one more acceptable than the other?



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,729 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Talking about those who have speculated that the relationship was known about at ITV, managing director Kevin Lygo said: "A lot of these people, there is not a lot of them, but they worked as presenters on ITV for a very long time, some of them over 10 years, there was never any complaint from them while they were there. If they wanted anything, it was more work, please."

    He continued: "It's not surprising that when they go, they're suddenly like, 'Oh it's awful' when for a decade or more they were reaping the rewards and enjoying the job and everyone seemed to get on.

    Wonder who that is a dig at?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,431 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    In court, the brother said 16.

    In Philip Schofield's retelling of the conversation with the brother, no age is mentioned, just 'teenager' - at least in the media reporting of his statement in court.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/itvs-philip-schofield-shouted-brother-29583656

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 54,972 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The fact you need to ask if it makes a difference between an adult and a 16 year old engaging in intimacy compared to an adult and a 13 year old is telling.

    btw, nobody is saying that a middle-aged man and a 16 year old is all fine n dandy and as normal as the day is long.



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