Russia - threadbanned users in OP

We don't know the the true figures for losses but it's certain that any offensive is extremely costly in lives and equipment .We heard all that when Russia was on the attack but the shoe is on the other foot now and it's the Ukrainians that will suffer heavy losses unfortunately. How long it can go on I've no idea just hope Ukraine can beat the odds .

As I see it, the Russian's will be driven out of Ukraine, all of it, even if this counter offensive will not be successful. ( But I don't believe this will be the case) Russia will be bled white Blue and red trying to hold it. Trying to hold Afghanistan brought them to bankruptcy ( and it was a much bigger state back then, the USSR) and ended only when they left Afghanistan. The war in Ukraine is cost wise of a much greater magnitude than the Afghan one. If he has not started to do it yet, Putin will soon have to start borrowing from his fair weather friends, the Chinese. And that will mean effectively handing over chunks of Russian infrastructure and realm estate. Maybe that will be a bone too big even for Vladimir Putin to swallow? ( or get past his Silovicki? )

As things stand, Russian strategy appears to be to dig in and try to withstand whatever the AFU can throw at them over the Summer. Whatever money Russia has to spend on this war right now will be spent on shovels and missiles, but not much to fight a mobile offensive campaign. AFU need to get something out of the next 3 months or so - no less than cutting the Russian zone of occupation in two. If the Russians get the double whammy of the land corridor going and finding that their prepared defences don't hold up, then they will come to the table with far humbler proposals for peace.

Just in case you ( and Kermit ) haven't seen the link I posted, here's the gist of it " according to Newsweek it was not exactly one sided... Day 1= Killed / Destroyed total's from from the Russian side, 37 artillery systems, + 13 Tanks. 1010 Russian's killed, to bring the weekly total to 4860. No mention of wounded. "

So no rolling boh, it's far from over, If Ukraine keeps killing and destroying as they are doing, at nearly 5'000 KIA Russians per week ( + wounded), then those figures are unsustainable for Putin, and bear in mind that he's already scraping the barrel for manpower. Having the Nrs is one thing, but poorly equipped and trained, not to mention badly led is a pretty useless army too. Good only for suicide attack's where they take a bullet, and identify the Ukrainian defense position's.

That's right, all past experience has shown that attacking russian positions never works. I'd say you cried rivers worrying about losing negotiating power that time too.

It's amazing the similarity with Stalingrad. Resist the enemy in the city for the winter. Then let the enemy capture it as they are giving up. Then encircle them.

I hope you are correct

Ultimately it's up to Ukraine and I don't see them ever giving up. Even if the war drag's on 10 years. As long as western countries back Ukraine economically and military including sanctions Russia will not win. That's whether it takes 5 year's, 10 or 20 ultimately they Will lose.

Why western leaders need more evidence for a massive war crime which Russia just did.

It will do the same with the nuke plant and fire at will on rescue workers.

Blowing the dam should have enacted a western assisted humanitarian operation with western helicopters protected by air support.

Never said it was over and I want Ukraine to win out completely am just a bit concerned can they stay the course which I am sure they mean to.

If accurate, this is showing them encircling Russian units out on the field. It’s a good idea, once those units are cut off from resupply they might be inclined to surrender, although that might have to come after a period of digging in and hoping that a Russian counter offensive can rescue them.

I’m wondering if that’s the eventual plan for Tokmak. Encicle the place and then let the defenders use up their supplies to the point of giving up.

Let them wither on the vine tactic. Let a force of similar size there to mark them if you can open enough of a gap to the Russian front line they eventually have to surrender. However I suspect they most for res like that will try to retreat before complete encirclement

does that mean all the ruzzian scummy kunts living here can get called up ? if so lol