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Assassin's Creed Megathread

  • 31-08-2022 9:24pm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,253 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199

    A place where we can discuss Assassin's Creed games.

    The last one I played was the DLC for Origins. Origins was the last AC game I did enjoy from start to finish.

    I think I will go and play AC2, AC Brotherhood and AC Revelations over the autumn and winter as Ezio is a great character. Probably my most favourite AC character.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Might as well start it with a history, seeing as the first one is kinda being discussed elsewhere and mentions of it being remastered and DLC for the upcoming Mirage. If leaks are to be believed:

    AC1: I liked it. Rose tinted glasses and all, I don't recall the missions being overly repetative and the graphics blew me away at the time (console player so they were impressive to me). I loved the story, even enjoyed the modern day bits, and wanted more.

    AC2 Trilogy: Nothing more can be said about these that are already said. The only thing I didn't like were the base defence missions in Brotherhood, but everything else was magnificent.

    AC3: I enjoyed it, but Conor was a bland aul soul. Hard to follow the Eziology, kinda enjoyed the base building.

    AC4 Black Flag: Still my favourite, sea shanties, good characters, a pretty good story with an fairly good opening imo. Naval combat was ace at the time. Yeah, just loved this one.

    AC Rogue: I actually enjoyed this too, Oirishness aside. Was kinda fun to play the baddie for a bit. Don't remember much more of it, but it's part of the Kenway saga, as they call it (3, 4 and Rogue), so nice to get more of that.

    AC Unity: Didn't really play this one. Was aware of the performance issues at the time, so didn't jump into it. I feel like something else was distracting me at the time... most likely GTAV. Wow...

    AC Syndicate: I got this on release, and was enjoying it, but just never went back to it one day. Not sure why. Combat felt meaty, but I think I felt disconnected from the characters/story. And it was a very bad icon covered map. Think that put me off.

    AC Origins: I thoroughly enjoyed this. I like the new direction, I liked that my own belief that they were exploring the.. ahem... origins of the pieces of Eden and the First Civilisation. Yeah, it wasn't an AC like the last 9 main games, but it needed to be fresh as I had definitely lost interest in the formula. I loved the mythology and it played more into my preference of fantasy vs reality. Never played the DLC, but I'm not great for that anyway.

    AC Odyssey: My second favourite. The draw distance initially blew me away, seeing something in the far off distance and being able to go there was something I hadn't properly experienced before on console, so coupled with the stunning graphics (at the time, and still today tbh), a story I could get behind, a customisation system that makes sense, and RPG mechanics. It came at the right time for me and I sunk over 100 hours into it.

    AC Valhalla: Got it, was disappointed. It gave up the fantasy-ish setting for a more grounded, realistic take (compared to Odyssey, for a while at least), and the drab snow covered rainy environments didn't do much after the gloriously coloured Odyssey. But, I was also at the start of my open-world burnout as most games I was playing around and before then were similar in scale.

    I'm interested to see this Mirage, because it does need another shakeup. Most will want the stealth back and full centre. I think a modern take on the older games without anything new may not do it, but I'm open to it. Thinking that the first game will be DLC for Mirage makes me excited a bit tbh. But I'll wait and see! Christ, that's a lot of games and I haven't even included the spin-off ones! 12 main games and 12 spin-offs, milked dry nearly at this stage!

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,253 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199

    Assassin's Creed IV was the first AC game I played.

    Loved the Caribbean setting, sailing the seas and visiting the islands there.

    The next time I will play it, I will be drinking rum.

    Sun, sea, shanties and rum. Arrr!

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭Penn

    Short version of my opinion:

    AC1: Good ideas poorly executed

    AC2: What AC1 should have been, but still even better

    AC Brotherhood: Improves on most of AC2, story and characters didn't have the same impact though, and the Brotherhood could feel overpowered at times

    AC Revelations: Again, some great improvements, and I loved the ending of Ezio and Altair's stories, but the modern day bits were annoying as hell

    AC3: Every chapter felt like another tutorial, Connor's story was great but he himself was bland, setting didn't lend itself well to the usual traversal of AC games

    AC4 Black Flag: Ship and general combat fantastic, the setting and story were perfect, such an absolute joy to play most of the game. A lot of on-land mission were awful though, particularly a lot of eavesdropping or tailing missions, and the present day stuff suuuuuuuuucked

    AC Rogue: Didn't play

    AC Unity: Struggled to get into it. Once the open world opens up, the game just felt extremely bloated with map icons to the point where I just couldn't bring myself to go through the whole process again

    AC Syndicate: Didn't play

    AC Origins: Played maybe 2 or 3 hours but couldn't get into it. Just felt soulless

    AC Odyssey: Loved it. Obviously a huge departure from the usual AC formula, but I loved the powers and abilities, the freedom, most of the RPG elements, and the game map was incredibly beautiful. Had a lot of busywork and resource bullsh*t, but it was still fun enough that it never felt too much like a chore. A lot of performance issues though.

    AC Valhalla: Similar to Unity, while I loved Odyssey the thoughts of playing Valhalla just felt like starting again from scratch and probably wouldn't be worth it, particularly as they reduced the powers/abilities, and the game setting seemed hugely bland and dull compared to Odyssey

    Odyssey won back a lot of lost graces of the franchise for me, but I couldn't bring myself to play Valhalla. Hopefully a pared-back next game which is more focused could blend together the best bits of the older Ezio games, and the last few RPG-lite games.

  • Registered Users Posts: 29,189 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool

    I have about 10 hours played of Odyssey, tried playing through twice but kept drifting off. Think with all this Mirage talk, I'll reinstall it and give it another go, maybe just focus on the main story missions. Although i remember thinking that before but even the main missions seemed like bloat.

    Absolutely looking forward to 'going back to basics' with mirage but it's Ubi so expectations well in check.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Just ensure you pick Kassandra. I couldn't imagine playing through it with yer mans voice!

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,253 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199

    Ah Kassandra, the lovely Kassandra.

    I had her getting it on with both women and men. Oh yeah!

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ridley

    I'm interested to see this Mirage, because it does need another shakeup.

    If it was supposed to be Valhalla DLC, as the story goes, it's more likely an AC1 homage in the way the Paris DLC gameplay, for example, had a throwback to Unity.

    GTA Online AC to be the Next Big Thing maybe? Although I keep forgetting about it, expecting an unnecessary, focus-group led pursuit of Ghost of Tsushima to be announced.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭quokula

    Since a few of us are doing this:

    AC1: Absolutely loved this game, it felt like such a breath of fresh air from all the dumb space marine shooters that were kind of the dominant AAA trend at the time. I never really felt the repetitiveness that other people talk about, and to me the parkour traversal, the "hide in plain sight" conceits and the different ways you could approach assassinations were revolutionary.

    AC2 series: I only actually played AC2 and not the others, and I didn't complete it either. I loved what I did play, but it just came out in a period of my life when I didn't have time for gaming. I've been tempted by the Ezio Collection that sometimes comes up in sales but I fear the games won't have aged well

    AC3: So bland. The wilderness was empty and the towns seemed like such a backward step from the previous games. I didn't stick with it for long

    AC4 Black Flag: Made me fall in love with the series again. The ship stuff was superb, the characters were great, very solid game overall. Also the only one in the series where I actually liked the modern day sequences, because they had some fun with them and didn't take them too seriously

    AC Unity: Not a common opinion but I think this is my favourite AC game. I never came across the bugs people talked about, and the city was just stunning and a joy to explore while the "traditional" AC gameplay reached its peak

    AC Syndicate: I was really looking forward to Victorian London and I did enjoy the game, but it felt a bit stale compared to the previous two and the grappling hook made the game worse if anything because you ended up zipping around the place and kind of skipping over a lot of what was fun previously

    AC Origins: Felt like a great reboot of the series, with smart gameplay improvements and a spectacular world to explore. I don't remember many of the story beats or characters when I think back on it though

    AC Odyssey: While everything looked beautiful, the boats were a let down after black flag, and a lot of the scenery and islands felt very copy and pasted. Kassandra carried the whole thing though as the best lead character in the series

    AC Valhalla: Too big and too long. I enjoyed it a lot for a while. I like the characters, I enjoyed the storylines of some regions and the fact that the correct path wasn't always obvious, I like building the little town, I liked the raids and the gameplay variation they brought. But middle ages England is such a bland done to death location (as is the Vikings theme) compared to the more interesting historical settings of other AC games, and the game just drags on and on and on until you're sick of it

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    It's information that I've been set on for several months, but with several new sources further corroborating the information, I'm finally confident to report on it.

    Ubisoft will be revealing several new Assassin's Creed games this weekend at Ubisoft Forward.

    The first game is an extensive "deep dive" into Assassin's Creed Mirage, which was leaked late last week on social media. Assassin's Creed Mirage will take players to Baghdad to play as a young Basim.

    Two other games, which will be a part of Assassin's Creed Infinity are also set to be revealed. Assassin's Creed Project Red and Assassin's Creed Project Hexe.

    Project Red will take players to Japan. Early concept arts depict a female samurai-like assassin, but players are likely to be able to play as both male and female.

    Project Hexe (recently changed from Project Neo), understood to be in development at Ubisoft Montreal will take players in the darkest Assassin's Creed game ever. It's understood that Project Hexe is set during the witch hunt era in 16th century Europe. Project Hexe is understandably one of the more interesting projects and although I wasn't able to report on the title until now, I did throw a slight hint on Twitter (sorry).

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld

    (moved from gaming general thread)

    I heard all the AC warnings before that they were bloated etc etc

    But I had to try one, so I chose AC Odyssey when the gold edition with all the DLC was on sale and the 60 FPS patch was out on Xbox Series X.

    So, I really enjoyed it but then some strange things happened that ruined the game and that are not often mentioned. After a certain level you can fall from any height. Also, you can climb anything. So this 3D game effectively became a 2D game with no navigational challenges. Also, even though you have "deep meaningful" conversations with well realised NPCs, including famous philosophers in the birthplace of philosophy .. most quests involved slaughtering stuff. So, it just became tedious. The tombs/dungeons are all the same as well ...

    Anyway, looks stunning. I recommend it just for the scenery and "history" on a decent TV. Navigating to all the islands on your ship is fun. You can turn on sea shanties and just leave the dead beat crew behind when you want to go explore and slaughter on some new gorgeous island. The water physics are great, at times your boat can scrape over land covered by shallow water. And the swimming and diving is amazing at times. I think they have really good artists behind them for these games with a beautiful artistic style.

    I've recently tried Origins and it feels and plays a lot better. Riding a horse across the desert, for example, feels a lot better than the janky horse in Odyssey. Also, the combat feels a lot better, maybe because you've got a shield, or maybe because I was used to it after Odyssey. Plus it looks stunning. Incredibly beautiful at times. Alexandria, the lighthouse, the water, ... amazing. You need 60 FPS, HDR, 4K to appreciate it. But I don't have the time to play it. Will get to it or play it between other games.

    Also, got Unity because it was 2 quid and on Xbox Series, you get 60 FPS and all bug fixes they released. An older game, but wow, looks beautiful at times, and the interiors even more impressive than e.g. RDR2 which came out years later.

    I'll probably get Valhalla + the DLC when it's cheap as I love the locations and art in that game. Also, I want the Irish DLC ...

    So, they have the technology chops, and the artistic chops but they need to sort out the gameplay and game design. Hopefully that's what the new AC game will bring. It'd be a shame if this kind of historic video game world, with these budgets was discarded.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Finally Japan, but it has a very high bar of Ghost of Tsushima to contend with. Will be keeping an eye. Hexe also sounds promising, possibly throwing in a bit of horror.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ridley

    GTA Online AC to be the Next Big Thing maybe? Although I keep forgetting about it, expecting an unnecessary, focus-group led pursuit of Ghost of Tsushima to be announced.

    *slow exhale*

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Trailer for Mirage, looks like it's going back to the roots, but getting serious AC1 vibes from it. Will be interesting to see how it'll be different.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Teaser for Assassins Creed Codename Red (AC Fuedal Japan). Created by the same team behind Odyssey, and touted as the future of [Ubisofts] open-world RPGs. The fact its the Odyssey team has me excited, but again a big hurdle of Ghost of Tsushima to compete with.

  • The Mirage trailer left me thinking I've played this before to be honest, be interesting to see what they do with it.

    Also spotted this elsewhere, it's been given an 18+ adults only rating on the Xbox store and features "real gambling"

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭marcbrophy

    Time to sacrifice the first born to Lord Ubi for some extra Helix credits 😁

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    This AC Infinity sounds interesting too. What is starting off as a hub, will evolve over time. Basically, it'll be like your own Animus that you use to launch the AC games. Instead if a "library" of games, they will be presented as DNA. Initially just a hub, it will grow to become a kind of game, with its own things to do and how it links the memories together. The modern story will basically be set in Infinity which allows those who have no interest in it to just play the games/DNA.

    It's a good idea I think. Just hope they can pull it off and it doesn't go all MT crazy.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭Ridley

    Return of the beggar women only this time they deplete your account.

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  • Administrators Posts: 52,702 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec

    I'm a bit confused tbh.

    Mirage is the next game, but they are moving away from the RPG style of Origins / Odyssey / Valhalla? I'm surprised at this, I thought this was a very successful transition for them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭Penn

    I think the Japan game, Codename Red, is supposed to be more like the RPG games.

    They're essentially scattergunning the AC Franchise, trying to use it to cater to everyone. Mirage will be like the old games, Red will be like the newer games, Hexe will likely kickoff a new offshoot of horror type games, Jade is a mobile game, and Infinity is the overall hub that they'll all be accessed from (including older games) and the modern day storyline will be accessed from it so gamers no longer have to worry about not being able to follow the modern day stuff by not playing each game.

  • Mirage is more of a side story isn't it? More akin to Rogue I think than a mainline title.

  • Administrators Posts: 52,702 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec

    Ah, if it's just a filler game it would make more sense to go more basic.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    I don't think it's a filler game, because won't AC1 remastered (or whatever they're doing to it) be DLC for it? Maybe I just misheard. It will be smaller than Valhalla et al, but I reckon it'll be the same size/length as the original AC games.

  • Registered Users Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭Penn

    From what I've read it's a 15-20 hour game, and it won't be full price, probably about €50.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,248 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy

    A dev diary for Mirage has leaked early.

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,879 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard

    What we think of this?

    Wear Mirage top where you can actually feel what it's like to get stabbed???

    (Haptic clothing for sensations)

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,573 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    I'm up for it, but €500 for a tshirt is a lot!