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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    These ones are real

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    🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    If/when he does get indicted under the Espionage Act, he's going to absolutely blow up. What's the phase after caps-lock tweets?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    This is his "profile" on Truth Social

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    So he will heavily lean into the "They will come for you next" angle and he will call for his "supporters" to protest at the DOJ or Georgia (which ever indictment comes first) and tell them to "fight like hell" etc.

    In other words - He will happily create more riots resulting in people getting hurt (or worse) and has no concern for hundreds of his supporters getting arrested and jailed , all so he can feel better about himself and hopefully cause enough turmoil and pain that he can use it as a bartering chip to stay out of jail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A planned effort to vote on contempt charges today for FBI Director Chris Wray might just go nowhere today unless McCarthy makes amends with the Gaetz splinter caucus

    Why contempt charges? The GOP want an unredacted copy of a report on unaccredited hearsay which was relayed to a credible person because they hope the bare allegation will make Biden look bad.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The longer they spend in the circular firing squad the better it is for everyone else.

    Let them off - Maybe Vote out McCarthy and spend the rest of the summer having votes on his replacement?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,920 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They're not going after Trump, they're going after Trump's followers. All those Trump supporters who improperly kept classified material from their time as President and stored them in their Florida hotels without correct storage, while refusing to engage fully and properly with the authorities investigating it. What a hero, to stand in the way and potentially take that bullet for all his followers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Sounds good to me. If there's an emergency, Biden can issue executive orders. Otherwise let them fling feces at each other.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,615 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    "If they can come after me for attempting to commit sedition and attempting to pervert the outcome of Elections , they can come after you too!!! , So click here to donate $20 to help your favourite Billionaire to fight this injustice"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It still absolutely beggars belief that people haven't cottoned onto this guy yet. No wonder he loves the poorly educated (in his own words).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Sunk cost fallacy. You hear it so abundantly from his supporters who say 'ah can't you tell he's being sarcastic' and the like when he clearly isn't



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Christ she is absolutely vile. How can people vote for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭Sparko


    Trump announced he has been indicted again. No official statement yet from DOJ as of yet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,360 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Trump indicted on 7 counts in South Florida.

    The move to Florida emerging on Tuesday and the 2nd Grand Jury has been totally out of left field.

    If I had to guess at what DOJ's play is here? It's going to charge the documents case in Florida and the insurrection/J6 case in DC.

    Good hunting to Jack Smith!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,498 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    When you think about it this is his last best shot: Miami, mar a lago, where many potential jurists will be pro trumpers, many even jan 6 'truthers,' and incidentally also coincidentally southern florida is a once thriving LGBTQ cultural center, which has been the target of terrorism since before and after Pulse Nightclub, up to and including state laws being passed to scare the **** out of LGBTQ and even minorities and other anti-Trump people so they will flee the jurisdiction, leaving an even more densely red jury pool. As a foil to the Bragg case in NYC, Trump couldn't ask for a forum more corruptly stacked in his favor, up to and including the federal circuit and the supreme court which is about to oversee this clusterfuck in history.

    So if he loses this, he ain't got **** all else to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    Indictment is still under seal but there are rumour's that some of the counts are espionage charges.

    If the charges are towards the most serious and he get's the book of evidence I do wonder if we will see a plea deal here. Florida or not, I'm not sure if he will have the stomach to put his freedom in the hands of a Jury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Ah sur, at least he was right about the golf I suppose!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    He won't have the stomach, and definitely not the ego, to plead guilty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    All his life he’s gotten his way. Whilst he’s no stranger to court, this is a different game.

    He is looking at very serious charges and if his solicitors lay it out that he’s in big trouble then I wouldn’t be surprised if he gritted his teeth and took a plea deal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    That'd be trump admitting he was lying/incorrect in all his toof social rants about that 'he's done nothing wrong', has trump yet to admit he was wrong? It's not like he can scribble over a weather chart with a sharpie or something to correct this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Imagine if he flees to Russia…


    😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    That'd be a sticky wicket for his secret service detail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭All_in_Flynn


    No but he can whinge and moan about it from his golf course instead of a cell. He’s never been in this position before.

    You’d have to imagine the evidence would have to be pretty overwhelming for the DOJ bringing a case like this against a former president. Getting ahead of ourselves here but if his legal team tell him the writings on the wall, I could see him him taking a deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    If the reporting is correct on the 7 indictments, if given all the maximum penalties and serves them consecutively, it could be 100 years in prison. Lots of ifs.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,920 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah this is a man who espoused as far back as 2016 that he never settles cases, while repeatedly settling pretty much every case eventually.

    He'll fight and drag it out for as long as possible with bullsh*t excuses and time delays, but there's a good chance he settles and agrees to plead guilty to some of the lesser charges if the bigger ones (espionage act especially) are dropped. Then he'll claim publicly he was forced to plead guilty, isn't guilty, corrupt DOJ, biased judges, donate here, whataboutBiden, donate here, crooked (insert relevant name), no seriously please give me money, I can do what I want I was President, give me money and I'll match your donation by giving 5x that amount to myself which actually doesn't mean anything because it's already my money but just give me more of your money for reasons I don't care just give me your money, something something Clinton, MAGA!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    One difference here, is that the courts in Florida use the 'rocket docket' and typically conclude cases in 6 months. Delaying tactics might not work this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭Economics101


    @Penn: "He'll fight and drag it out for as long as possible with bullsh*t excuses and time delays, but there's a good chance he settles and agrees to plead guilty to some of the lesser charges if the bigger ones (espionage act especially) are dropped. Then he'll claim publicly he was forced to plead guilty, isn't guilty, corrupt DOJ, biased judges, donate here, whataboutBiden, donate here, crooked (insert relevant name), no seriously please give me money, I can do what I want I was President, give me money and I'll match your donation by giving 5x that amount to myself which actually doesn't mean anything because it's already my money but just give me more of your money for reasons I don't care just give me your money, something something Clinton, MAGA!"

    I love it! Sounds like Molly Bloom's stream of consciousness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I can't see Trump pleading guilty to this one - in fact, he's more likely to burn down everything around him and demand that his followers go to war than he is to admit that he did something wrong. Charges under the Espionage Act are incredibly serious. Will be interesting to read the indictment when it's unsealed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    His followers are going mad on Twitter, Biden gets 5m from Ukraine and Trump is indicted over a few documents, Trump had the power to declassify, its a political with hunt to stop Trump, electoral interference etc etc . Wouldn't put it past him to drop a few hints that maybe its time to hit back. He'd phrase it that its unfortunate that ordinary decent people are pushed into action because of a Marxist fascist government.



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