Sick of this country

I heard an interesting stat from a teacher graduate from her class of sixty (virtually all Irish born).

All graduated two years ago and 50 of the 60 have already emigrated.

Of the ten remaining 7 are emigrating this summer or later this year.

Personally I think this country is beyond saving.

Oh for a fairer unemployment welfare system. Surely the UK and Ireland can come up with a better system than flat rate for all. The worker who got laid off after 15 years gets the same as the person who never worked in their life and signed on after school.

Varadker was talking about this but then I also remember him talking about rewarding people who get up in the morning. Great man for the quotes

Signing up when unemployed in Ireland and Luxembourg is much the same. You need to show why you left, for me my fixed term contract was over as I was maternity cover. Give your ID, know your government number, it's all the same really.

Luxembourg give you 80% of your salary for up to 12 months. Lots and lots advised me to kick back and relax but hey I had a job one month later. People want a safety net and here is one in action.

France has this, Germany has this and the rate doesn't last forever. You get moved off this rate after 1 year or 2 years depending on the country but it's a safety net. Oh taxes are not low! You certainly pay for this social insurance. Ireland should be exploring something like this, hell most (my unscientific headcount most) of Europe has a better system than flat rate for all.

If people are able to take early retirement from teaching and other public sector jobs, that tells me that they are doing just fine. So not everyone in the country is fcuked.

Just because FF/FG say it, that doesn't make it untrue. Young people are the most likely cohort to emigrate. I've friends who emigrated through necessity and I've other friends who 'just wanted to try Australia for a couple of years'. There's no potato famine here any more. Most people who emigrate aren't forced to emigrate like the way it was years ago.

I will agree that there's a lot of young teachers emigrating from Ireland at the moment. But swings and roundabouts. If enough of them emigrate, there'll be shortages here and many of them will be back to fill those shortages.

I think you are being very dramatic in saying Ireland is a complete and utter dump and advising any young person under 35 to get out ASAP. Very dramatic.

Out of interest, where would you advise them to go?

I hope you are under 35 then!

So you spent years in England, one of the most multi cultural countries in the world and now you're back here moaning about too many foreigners in Ireland! Hehe.

No potato famine anymore. . . .Ah sure they're not starving to death - ungrateful bastards. ;)

They're going to proper functioning countries where they're not paying 50%+ tax after €40,000, not paying €2K a month on rent, decent public infrastructure in transport and health exist, bailing out corrupt banks, and where Rip off Paddy is not joining them.

Why don't you stand for election? Or do your crowd only harass and shout at people!

My opinion is the older generation are a bunch of entitled eejits who happened to get very lucky with their property prices. The challenges are different today, and they take every opportunity to ram down under 35s throats "how difficult they had it". Let's call a spade a spade, they got very lucky when a change in tax policy brought an overnight rush of wealth into the country via MNCs.

That same generation has ABSOLUTELY been to the detriment of developing the country further. They are all about keeping things as they are, keeping their asset prices inflated, retiring early and keeping young people's wages low to prop up their pensions while they crib on about how easy young people have it. Brown envelopes, nod and a wink etc etc.

As for many civil service administrators - they are the epitome of that class! Robert Watt etc., reject reject reject change, maintain the status quo at all costs.

I even had a HSE relation (a sneering kind who owns many property assets attained when it was easy to get them) tell me she was delighted with the IT ransomware attack as it meant she had to do no work. Dickheads the lot of them.

I'm not talking about all, but there are a lot of them in that 50-70 age bracket.

Decent money thats self employed though so youre not really entitled to snything if things go belly up. Plus the fact you have to give 10 plus hours a week commuting to get it.

I'm sure you'll be able to name a country with low taxes, cheap housing, plentiful jobs, great infrastructure and high public sector salaries. Being that they're so common and all?

The latest CSO survey I saw told us that more Irish people are returning home than leaving. Lots of young people leave to see a bit of the world but most come home from what I can tell. This is certainly true for doctors, I read recently that 85% of them return home after going abroad for the experience and exposure to different medical environments. I know a good few medical professionals through my partner and all of them have worked abroad, they're all home now though.

Yes Ireland is tough going for young people right now, but most countries abroad where people can get work have much of the same problems we do. When I was allowing my flat to be viewed in London before I left earlier this year there was a queue going down the road to see it.

Go on, name your perfect country with low taxes, cheap housing, plentiful jobs, great infrastructure and high public sector salaries etc.?

Next question, why aren't you there if here is so bad?

I originally posted here earlier on a stat regarding teachers emigrating. Go and type "teachers emigrating Ireland" into Google. It's all there. They say which countries they're emigrating to and give the reasons why. First hand information.

Personally you'd want to be blind not to see the reasons why so many are emigrating.

But many FF/FGers and their supporters have it handy in Ireland. To them the status quo is worth protecting. We all know why.

It's not great money if you are self-employed. Given that you'll have wet days where you can't work etc.