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Currently buying/selling a house? How is it going? READ MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    As the other poster said above, the asking price of €270k means absolutely nothing.

    You can absolutely negotiate, but you have to be willing to seriously p*ss off the seller and perhaps even lose out on the house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Galwayhurl


    Hi folks,


    We reserved a new build and now have to choose which bank we're going with. Out of the banks that we have AIP with, PTSB and Bank of Ireland have the best rates at the moment. PTSB shades it with the cash back.


    Our house won't be ready til September which means rates could change dramatically by then. Any suggestions on who to go with? Would BOI recently announcing deposit rate increases mean that they will likely increase mortgage rates soon?


    Finally, how long are PTSB and BOI taking from the time you tell them you've reserved a property to the time of loan of offer/drawdown? Just wondering if the one we choose increases rates dramatically, how long would it take to get things sorted with a different bank?


    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    I bought back there at Christmas.

    BOI issued funds 8 Dec, my sale completed on 16 Dec, cashback was in my account on 20 Dec.

    That was less than 10 working days, it was a pleasant surprise for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭DataDude


    I think the reason is people in earlier phases get compensated for the fact they will be living on a building site for potentially years. Noise, dirt, general disruption.

    If it’s a big development, it could be many many years so would need to be compensated in some way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    Asking price doesnt mean a lot. Been to plenty viewings where agent makes clear seller looking for more. Generally if house is turn key theyll price it low to get people in. Hope is you fall in love with it and bid more than thought.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭AH92


    Does anyone have any experience on this situation where the folio of the house is registered to a council? It's a probate sale at the closing stage and seems to be a big issue as we might have to pull out as we were supposed to get an unregistered freehold title.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Jenthreepinks


    What are people's thoughts on buying new versus buying second-hand? We are trying to buy in the Greystones/Delgany area and are between a 4 bed A2 new build and a bigger 5 bed house that is 20 years old BER B2 and in a beautiful established estate. They are within 5 mins walk from eachother so the neighbourhood/distance to village & schools is the same. The second-hand house needs some work done, a wall knocked down and a new kitchen put in and the bathrooms are all quite tired and all flooring needs replacing. It's cosmetic work but our budget would only stretch so far depending on what offer was accepted. We are under pressure to move asap as we are moving from another area and the kids will start school there in September. The new build is really lovely, we'd have the benefits of everything being new, a lovely green and playground across the road, no bidding wars, but the negative is we were hoping for more space and it is the same size as our current house. We could convert the attic for more room in a few years but our budget wouldn't allow for that now.

    Any thoughts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,911 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    We had this same dilemma, and quite quickly we decided to only look at 2nd hand houses and ignore new builds. A few reasons, some/all of which may be specific to our circumstances:

    • New builds tend to be in worse locations. This is certainly true in our town, where all of the more desirable sites were taken years ago and new builds are often more likely to be next to a motorway than a school or train station.
    • New builds usually have smaller gardens than comparable 2nd hand houses.
    • We placed a premium on the fact that the 2nd hand houses we were looking at were in mature, settled estates. No construction ongoing. No waiting for trees/green areas to mature.
    • You know what you are buying into. There is simply no way of knowing how well a new estate will be looked after etc

    I would have loved a new A-rated house, but imo they are too expensive relative to similar 2nd hand houses, given the trade-offs above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Would go for the second hand house if I was you.

    I personally hate the brand new ones, no personality cookie cutters

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 Murph3000


    Id avoid new estates. Heard too many horror stories of people ending up surrounded by council houses. At least with a more developed area, you can get a feel for the place and your neighbors.

    I agree with @herbalplants, new houses are getting smaller and smaller, squeezing out ever inch of available space. Ive seen a few ones go in with 3 story skinny houses, particularly ugly.

    The Ber ratings are just another scam to encourage new builds. A Ber B2 will be absolutely fine from an actual energy efficiencey point of view. In fact I know several people with high ber ratings who really struggle in Summer, place can be like an oven.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Jenthreepinks


    That's really helpful, a resounding thumbs up for second-hand houses - not what I was expecting actually! I agree, developers are trying to squeeze everything into a small space with new builds but not thinking of how the house will function. The one we are looking at is €650k+ and it doesn't even have a hot press to store laundry as it's been taken up by the heat pump. Great energy efficiency but you still need to be able to put your sheets somewhere! I currently live in an A3 rated house and it's much too hot in the winter, particularly at night even with the windows open.

    My husband is all on for the second-hand house, I think I am too I'm just a bit put off by the potential of a bidding war and if we got it the work that needs to be done to it. There's already not enough hours to the day!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,449 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Another factor. Permeability

    We went with a 50yr old place v's new build because it had a number of good permeability (walking and cycling links) to a neighbouring estate and also neighbouring roads so provides good access from different directions.

    Also has many benefits already mentioned by other posters. Mature estate, good size front garden with a wall and hedge boundary , driveway for 1 car, back garden with tree providing shade for rear Garden. Nice in this weather. Front garage - real easy to get bikes in and out. 2 bus routes 5 minute walk (one via that permeability link). Large green areas in the estate have mature trees. BER was C1 because Oil fired boiler was upgraded 5/6 years ago + zoned heating and they had pumped walls . Can see us hitting BER of B1/A2 easy enough by putting in NEW windows (current ones about 25/20 yr old I'd say) and throwing panels up on the roof and a heat pump. The house needs modernising work but will do for a few years until we know what we need. Don't see any extension build needed as floor area is sufficient for us - just one/two internal wall changes and larger windows). Short term we thought ya a NEW build would have suited us for next 5yrs when kids are young but then after that we could only see downsides and unknowns as they are generally been built on the edge of the City - all the benefits we currently have now would heavily outweigh in the medium to long term and even I already seen benefits in the short term that had not factored in like a more mixed neighbourhood in terms of age profiles which means don't have a tidal flow of everybody leaving for work in the mornings and have a more neighbourhood/village feel to the place as a result even though we are in the City.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭AhhHere


    New builds also run the risk of being added to the awful neighborhood Whatsapp group😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Wab0607


    Was it originally a Council house? If so, was it purchased by tenants in the past and folio was never updated following purchase? Happens a lot.

    Sold mothers house some years ago and discovered it was sitting on the local Council's Folio of all land they owned in the area, not just her house. Contacted the Council and turned out it was a simple mistake when boundaries were being drawn some years previously as location was going from one Council's area of responsibility to another LA due to boundary extension of LA. The house was never a Council house and had never been sold on open market, handed down to family members for generations, so only discovered in recent times. Easy enough fix, Council agreed it was an error and applied to have it removed from their folio and placed on it's own folio number with Land Registry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭KLF


    Hi all, I'm looking moving to out of Dublin to somewhere more rural. A property that I'm considering looking at is over 100 years old but it also has a seperate converted stable block that has been split into 3 or 4 self contained units which have been used for short term lets but also longer term letting.

    I don't need the ability to make money out of them and would proabbly use them as an office / studio for the missus. However I'm wondering if having such an external building would cause issues getting a mortgage on the main property? Could it be considered a commercial lot?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,444 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Just on insurance you could struggle with it being over 100 years, check this out too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Have a bid in for a 4 bed semi which is now €20k over asking and that’s our bid. EA emailed last Thursday saying nobody has come in with a new bid after our one and she’ll speak to owner and revert back to us. There was viewings the day before that emai.

    roll on yesterday afternoon, no phone call/email from EA with any update. I rang to see if there was an update and there was an offer of €1k over our bid but wasn’t fully confirmed as she wanted proof of funds before telling us the new bid officially. They other bidders said they had it and would send within the hour.

    roll on today, no update. No reply to my email which was sent at opening of business today. We sent our AIP from BOI last week when making the bid as we were waiting on EBS for a higher amount. The BOI amount is well with it what we’re bidding but I’d wonder is at the lower end of what they think they’ll end up. I could go another €19k to our max with BOI but won’t do that as the house isn’t worth it in my opinion then. Anyway EBS have given us mortgage AIP which is worth €31k more than BOI.

    is the EA pulling a stroke??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭AH92


    That's helpful thanks, I'm under the assumption that it was never a council home so maybe that makes sense that it was a mistake being on the council folio. Will hopefully hear this week on what the story is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    They always seem to unearth these bidders at the 11th hour. I presume they have a list of interested parties who they call to say the house is close to being sale agreed and people jump in a panic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Senor Frog


    Sounds exactly like my own current experience. We were 20k over asking and the highest bidder , seller wasn't accepting our bid for a sale, it stalled there for two week as we weren't inclined to bid against ourselves when we were the highest bidder by 4k , I said as much to the EA, then another bidder appeared magically the next day ... I assume your buying in cork based off your name , by any chance is the EA initials JM?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    She has got back to us, with a new offer of €1k over what we offered we’ve gone €2k more. I think it’s a rouse to be honest but we like the house. It’s in a mature estate, walking distance of everything really.

    No ours is EA is SK.

    we’re lucky that our bidders need to give notice to their landlord and are not being kicked out!! We’d be under pressure.

    2 and a half weeks since we viewed the house as well. Was told the owner isn’t greedy….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 NiamhNaughton


    Hey all,

    We've finally gone sale agreed 2 weeks ago after a year of searching! We've got our engineer report done, valuation done and our broker says we're at the final sign off stage for the loan offer, we were expecting it to be finalised either yesterday or today. No word yet but fingers crossed for this week.

    Just wondering if anyone has experience with the timeline after formal loan offer stage?

    Our solicitor is ready to go, seller's solicitor has the deeds ready to go etc. Would we be looking at another 4 or 5 weeks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭mayo londoner


    V similar situation to ourselves, viewed a house 3 weeks ago, house was on market a month at this stage, was no bids on it until one came in at asking price a day later. Over and back with EA until we stated our final bid 14k over asking week before last, setting a deadline of the Friday. Again we weren't convinced that we weren't bidding against ourselves. Was no correspondence for 5 days from the EA and he then informed us of a new bidders profession (lets just say a profession with a 6 figure salary) had come in last minute for a 2nd viewing and offered 1k more, not sure why he felt the need to tell us the bidders profession, thought it was a bit odd.

    Pissed off, we pulled out of the bidding end of last week and it's gone sale agreed today at 1k above our last bid so appears to be genuine, could never have competed against a the bidders salary anyways but very frustrating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Keep the head up. What’s for you won’t pass you. So I keep telling myself anyway haha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Update on our situation!

    house we wanted has gone to an underbidder as they can close quicker then us as their sale agreed and contracts signed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Crikey the seller must be in a serious hurry. They must be buying something themselves - always a nightmare



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    When is the so called house price drop actually going to be seen?!

    Small houses in cabra are going for 70/80 thousand over asking! It's still crazy. I'm being outbid all over the place, but maybe because I'm just not willing to go as high, I just don't think they're worth it.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Don’t think so, it’s a landlord who was selling… I didn’t go into detail with the EA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    There’s none to be seen, the house I was bidding on went €21k over and I was €23k over! My own is sale agreed for €8k over asking. A similar house in town here went for €30k over this week and it made me wonder should I have held tough!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭herbalplants


    Just wondering what is people experience with taking a mortgage loan for a house that has half of the roof a flat roof? Do banks have no problem with buying a home that has flat roof or should I say part of the roof is completely flat.

    Remember the shills only get paid when you react to them.



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