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Would you support a windfarm in your area?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Yes

    Dublin is already facing out to old smokestacks (pigeon house), the only consideration for the windfarm should be the shipping lanes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    With all the infrastructure in place (at taxpayers expense) - beside villages is the most mouthwatering to the private entities installing them. A few years ago a section of the N59 was resurfaced into a beautiful smooth road into Galway city. Then the company contracted to install the first batch of turbines at Galway wind part dug up the freshly resurfaced road to install the cables to take the electricity to the grid. The road was a mess for about 6-7 years, it would pull the car into the ditch and wouldn't drain rainwater away.

    Needless to say, the windfarm company didn't give a f*ck



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    There were strong objections to those two chimney stacks when they were built. Now they are iconic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Yes

    The Dutch windmills were, battersea power plant is another. They are necessary infrastructure that become iconic just by being there, we need electricity, windmills provide that sustainably (though some will argue against that in bad faith). Others don't believe in climate change (or science in general) or don't care about 50 years from now as it won't impact them and would be happy to continue burning ancient plant and animal matter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Yes

    Area of natural beauty is subjective , ( and most aren't all that natural ) ,

    would I put them in glendalough or gougane Barra - No , but I wouldn't have any problem with them being within view of those places .. I'd have more problems with the coniferous forestry in those valleys ..

    There already are many wind farms in beautiful areas , and in general they're not the worse for them ( again personal opinion)

    Remembering too that modern off shore turbines are staggeringly tall ... They're going to be seen from a long way off , especially if you're up in the Dublin mountains ... they're also very spread out , they'll probably be kilometers apart .. so they won't be blocking the vista . ( It's a nice view - but it's not anything more than that )

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34 FrattonFred


    Yes

    I wish they would stop talking about the Dublin Array and get on and build the **** thing.

    if ever there was a "No Brainer" infrastructure project, then this is it.




  • Registered Users Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Fred this is Ireland. We specialise in this, the delay I mean.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Have no opinion on the location as I haven't enough information. However the author writing that 'many countries have insisted that turbines are 15-20km from shore'. One has to give examples and not use generalisation if you are making any case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Is that because they are good locations with consistently high wind speeds or sites mandated by the Governments?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,549 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Yes

    Two full pages of planning application for foreshore licence in The Northside People (a free sheet in North Dublin) for Sunrise Wind LTD to develop off the coast of Wicklow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Yes

    I'm ok with 20 km limits for windturbines , as long as all electricity pylons are also 20 km out of sight , and phone lines motorways and raillines should also be 20 km from where they can be seen ,

    I can clearly see a power station chimney from the hill behind my house, and its 15km away .. terrible...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    At least you are being honest about being a nimby unlike the other yes voters.

    Why didn't you vote no given you clearly don't support them in your area? Bizarre.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    Here's some pictures of the new Connemara:

    Once a pristine and stunning natural landscape now plundered into an industrial wasteland.

    Have to meet them "green" targets at all costs...



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Yes

    Ill level with you

    i dont actually have a problem with wind turbines

    What i failed to mention is that my previous house , ( near the aforementioned powerstation , had 5 or 6 wind turbines within a few kms .

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Yes

    Lovely pics, can't see the problem. Would look grand on a holiday guide.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Austria!


    I agree completely (sheep + looks like commercial forestry). The wind turbines are a positive, though.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Yes

    Bungalow Blitz destroyed Connemara. Ribbon development of identikit houses that don't match their surroundings.

    That forest/quarry is commercial/industrial so it's not a natural landscape.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    That is not true at all, the side of that hill was blown to pieces specifically to provide the stone for the turbine foundations. But I understand why you don't want people having this association. You simply can't acknowledge how environmentally unfriendly wind farms are.

    Just look at the amount of stone needed and the amount of bog land that needs to be extracted. All that bog that used to sponge carbon from the atmosphere now decimated:




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Yes

    There are a small number of windmills near to my house. I wouldn't mind having a few in the park behind my house. I'm not bothered by the sight of them and we would adjust to the sound, as we did with the busy road build behind us.

    Stay Free



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    Let us know where your house is there and we'll stick an airport in behind it. Sher you'll get used to the sound of jet engines over your house 24/7 and the extra construction vehicles and traffic on the roads sher that's what roads are there for aren't they. 👍️

    It's no wonder the government are walking all over everyone...



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,215 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Yes

    Jet engines....


    Hahahahahaha



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,482 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Yes

    There is no comparison between a windfarm and an airport, it's ludicrous to attempt to do so.

    Good that you acknowledge the impact of peat bogs and carbon with climate change though, I expect future arguments to take this into account now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Yes

    Dublin Airport is at the front of my house....about a 5 minute drive. Planes regularly flying over my house. Is that close enough for ya?

    Stay Free



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Yes

    The Céide field farms are older than the bogs that covered them, not exactly pristine, our landscape has been modified by humans for thousands of years. Oak trees now are smaller than the ones archaeologists found, thanks to selective harvesting removing the taller genes.


    This weekend the last peat briquette factory closed. That's a major threat to bogs removed. Wind turbines mean the bogs are economically active which is one of the best ways to protect them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Yes

    Hilarious the way this thread has backfired on the op.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,927 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yes

    D5. Go nuts, build whatever you like. I'm close to the airport and M50 anyway, noisy af.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    No

    How so? It's doing a great job at exposing the nimby eco-warrior cohort and pro FF/FG/Green shills of boards...

    We've seen a poster recruit yes voters from renewables forums and we've even seen a poster vote yes despite them not wanting wind farms or even the infrastructure that supports them within 20km of people's houses.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes

    Why do you keep lying lol?

    I posted a link to your poll on the Energy Infrastructure thread where everything from Biomass to Peat to transmission lines to CCGT to wave tech is discussed as there's a lot of folks interested in power generation on that thread (obviously). Note there's a massive amount of debate around the different types and it is, by no measure, full of renewable supporters.

    In fact there's further evidence that the original poll you linked, your poll and others are all correct on the matter as regards support.

    Here's a recent survey from the SEAI which specifically targeted a significant portion of respondents close to wind turbine & solar sites

    In 2022, surveyors conducted in-person interviews on the doorstep across all of rural Ireland. They surveyed 1,764 households. This included 1,116 households within 5km of a new commercial wind or solar project sites, of which 219 live within 1km of a project site.

    But hey, go ahead and tell us how the WEI survey, the SEAI survey, your own poll and identical poll on reddit all come to the same conclusions yet are all wrong lol



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,549 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Yes

    In fairness, a lot of posters here live in a homogeneous environment with little variation in beliefs.

    They're shocked when they find out that they're in a minority and 80% of the population doesn't agree with them. That's why they're coming up with all sorts of conspiracies and excuses to dispel the truths & discredit the majority.



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