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What's going to happen when Russia finally decides there is no distinction between Ukraine and the countries aiding them and reaches for the WMD toolkit? Attacks, no matter how ridiculous in Russia, are incredibly dangerous for a country as heroically paranoid.

I do wonder what other governments in private say to the Ukrainians about their attempts to spread and rope other nations in to the war.

Blind eyeism and pretending a bunch of randomers on the Ukraine/Russian border are abusing the situation entirely unaided is not credible.

As credible as Russias little green men in Donbas?

And arent the annexed regions Russian territory?

So why is crossing the old border a red line now?

Didn't mention nukes. If they do turn to something like that I think the west will be absolutely terrified and wouldn't have the will to do anything about it in any case. The notion that societies whose main preoccupation today are important things like gender and race politics is going to get involved in such a confrontation i'd struggle to believe.

This is a war between Russia and Ukraine. I support assistance to Ukraine under the red lines of the US which is for weapon use solely inside the territory of Ukraine.

If Ukraine can't guarantee those weapons don't fall in to hands of others who want to engage in activities in Russia itself with those same weapons then that support obviously can't continue.

They need to continuously show they can be trusted on that.

Describes Russian society in general:- Me Me Me and Me.

If you systematically destroy collective expression what else is left.?

I pity the poor Russian citizen.

"I pity the poor immigrant

Who wishes he would've stayed home

Who uses all his power to do evil

But in the end is always left so alone

That man whom with his fingers cheats

And who lies with every breath

Who passionately hates his life

And likewise, fears his death"

Bob Dylan

I think that the whole point of limiting what Ukraine could do with US supplied weapons as to avoid dragging the US into direct confrontation with Russia, and possibly ww3. So diplomatic speak, these US supplied weapons are to be used for defensive purpose's only. That does not interfere with what Ukraine does with home produced weapons, or what's supplied by other Country's that place no limits or restrictions on what they supply.

The west told Russia, in no uncertain terms, that if they go nuclear they will be hammered. The west has burned its bridges with this and won't back down.

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It looks like Ukraine have staged some sort of attack and had some success according to a Russian source.

There's geo-located footage of some wrecked Ukrainian vehicles in the area.

Will be interesting to see if this is just a once-off raid or the start of something bigger.

 "The notion that societies whose main preoccupation today are important things like gender and race politics is going to get involved in such a confrontation i'd struggle to believe."

I imagine their stockpile is in as good of shape as their regular force at this point.

was watching a documentary that under the Obama/GWB admins when it came time to refresh our nukes, we had actual encountered a ‘lostech’ issue: nobody knew how to make a critical bomb material anymore, Fogbank, it was super secret so it wasn’t written on the refrigerator and the engineers who hadn’t already died had forgotten how to make it. We spent a large sum of money reinventing it. In contrast I don’t see the Russians overcoming similar issues with their bombs should they arise.

Chloe is not happy.