Good!!! They better get used to it, because there's a whole lot more of the same coming their way, and all of the propaganda production from the Kremlin factory of lies telling them that the Russian air defenses are working well and not to worry, is not going to give them much comfort while bombs are falling all round them.
What's going to happen when Russia finally decides there is no distinction between Ukraine and the countries aiding them and reaches for the WMD toolkit? Attacks, no matter how ridiculous in Russia, are incredibly dangerous for a country as heroically paranoid.
I do wonder what other governments in private say to the Ukrainians about their attempts to spread and rope other nations in to the war.
Blind eyeism and pretending a bunch of randomers on the Ukraine/Russian border are abusing the situation entirely unaided is not credible.
Or, you could just come out and say you want Russia to win because you're scared of THE BOMB!
As credible as Russias little green men in Donbas?
And arent the annexed regions Russian territory?
So why is crossing the old border a red line now?
Russians attacking Russians on Russian soil.... Sounds like a Russia problem to me.
Both Germany and the UK have come out and said Ukrainian attacking military targets within Russia is perfectly justified.
Didn't mention nukes. If they do turn to something like that I think the west will be absolutely terrified and wouldn't have the will to do anything about it in any case. The notion that societies whose main preoccupation today are important things like gender and race politics is going to get involved in such a confrontation i'd struggle to believe.
This is a war between Russia and Ukraine. I support assistance to Ukraine under the red lines of the US which is for weapon use solely inside the territory of Ukraine.
If Ukraine can't guarantee those weapons don't fall in to hands of others who want to engage in activities in Russia itself with those same weapons then that support obviously can't continue.
They need to continuously show they can be trusted on that.
Well they're going to get vaporised. Obviously.
Putin and Medvedev will rattle the nuclear sabre all day every day, but they must realise by now that the global west is not afraid of it. They know they've had their bluff called and sent back to them tied to a brick.
Besides, the people who make up the military brass and the security services and the oligarchy are not going to permit Putin's folly to end the lives of their families and the motherland.
Without people willing to enact his orders, Putin is nothing. Totally feet of clay. And that's really where we are.
Him being deposed is only a matter of time.
No one needs to wonder what is being said in private, Ukraine is targeting military in russia, the countries supporting Ukraine continue to supply Ukraine while this occurs.
russia doesn't do boo about it because it's deathly afraid of touching NATO or the EU as that would be the end of it's existence.
We're watching a russian death spiral, the only question is how long it will take (and it could take many years).
If they're ever stupid enough to, I expect this to happen
So it’s ok - or is it - for Putin to bite away - bit by bit - at other soverign nations, looking for opportunities in getting his toe in the door and ‘interfering’ in general in the business / politics of some states. Syria , Moldova, Georgia, Kosovo, Ukraine, Belarus come to mind
It looks like they might be getting a taste of their own medicine now.
Is that not always the case with imperial overreach?"
"Where have all the flowers gone"?
It’s of interest you referring to agreement re American supplied arms can be used to attack targets in UKr only and are not allowed to attack targets on Russian soil. That agreement was based on the circumstances that existed at that time .if certain circumstances change then some aspects on this agreement may change . Eg if Putin uses nuclear weapons, nerve gas, etc.
as a matter of fact you might remember that Putin and other very senior officials eg Russian ambassador to Irl , denied up to within a day or two of 24 Feb 2022 that Ru has no intention of attacking UKr . BUT, BUT, BUT things changed apparently in the meantime and Ru was left with no option but to invade .
So what is good for the goose is good for the gander,!
I thought the "manly Russian army showing the woke west how serious they are" shite was put to bed quite a while ago.
Under Russian law, all of the fighting is already on Russian territory.
Describes Russian society in general:- Me Me Me and Me.
Or more likely, get singled out for fast track conscription?
If you systematically destroy collective expression what else is left.?
I pity the poor Russian citizen.
"I pity the poor immigrant
Who wishes he would've stayed home
Who uses all his power to do evil
But in the end is always left so alone
That man whom with his fingers cheats
And who lies with every breath
Who passionately hates his life
And likewise, fears his death"
Bob Dylan
The spies are probably too thick (at first) to get the message.
And the retweeter can also feign claim misunderstanding (a kind of "malicious compliance" )
The Soviet Union collapsed and this iteration may go the same way.
I think that the whole point of limiting what Ukraine could do with US supplied weapons as to avoid dragging the US into direct confrontation with Russia, and possibly ww3. So diplomatic speak, these US supplied weapons are to be used for defensive purpose's only. That does not interfere with what Ukraine does with home produced weapons, or what's supplied by other Country's that place no limits or restrictions on what they supply.
This post also reinforces my point about Russians not having any say in the war. For people who claim that all Russians are guilty because they don't actively fight against conscription or against the regime in other ways. They don't because presently they simply cannot, and while the situation remains as it is, that's way it will remain. Now if some pushback came in the form of some clans decided that they have had enough, and banded together, and started attacking the mobilization center's, now that could start the ball rolling!!!
The west told Russia, in no uncertain terms, that if they go nuclear they will be hammered. The west has burned its bridges with this and won't back down.
🇷🇺 BUK-M1 spectacularly 🔥💥 destroyed by 🇺🇦
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Are you saying Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack russian territory during a war started by russia?
If my neighbour starts dumping his dogs sh1t into my garden I sure add hell an not going to put it on my bin for him, I'm going to throw it right back into his garden along with my own dogs sh1t and if that's not working its going all over his windows and doorstep until he gets the hint.
When he stops and cleans my garden thoroughly from top to bottom and fixes any damage to it and apologises with his tail between his legs then I'll stop throwing sh1t all over his house.
06/04/2023
With. Neskuchnoye, Volnovakha district, Donetsk People's Republic, Russian territory temporarily occupied by Ukraine.
n.p. came under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
It looks like Ukraine have staged some sort of attack and had some success according to a Russian source.
There's geo-located footage of some wrecked Ukrainian vehicles in the area.
Will be interesting to see if this is just a once-off raid or the start of something bigger.
Came across this article showing Russians’ attitude to the war.
All just want Russia to win regardless of their opinion on the reasons or cause.
One quote struck me: “I believe that while sending troops into Ukraine was a mistake, withdrawing them would be a crime”
Maybe the cost of the war needs to be much higher for Russia - much more targets within Russia need to be hit.
"The notion that societies whose main preoccupation today are important things like gender and race politics is going to get involved in such a confrontation i'd struggle to believe."
Russia have constantly made veiled nuclear threats but never follow through. So we can be fairly sure that they wont just suddenly deploy nuclear weapons
I imagine their stockpile is in as good of shape as their regular force at this point.
was watching a documentary that under the Obama/GWB admins when it came time to refresh our nukes, we had actual encountered a ‘lostech’ issue: nobody knew how to make a critical bomb material anymore, Fogbank, it was super secret so it wasn’t written on the refrigerator and the engineers who hadn’t already died had forgotten how to make it. We spent a large sum of money reinventing it. In contrast I don’t see the Russians overcoming similar issues with their bombs should they arise.
Youre miles off. If you think that the "global west" is so preoccupied that it will crumble at the first taste of Russian steel youre way off. The collective west aka NATO is gearing up for a full scale military confrontation that might happen in the next 5-10 years and increasing their military readiness all the while.
The fact that they are not doing so in a paniced and disproportionate way, but in a sensible and methodical manner speaks to the rationality of western systems and to the ineffectual mediocrity of Russias military.
At the first attack on NATO by Russia, its WW3, and the US is preparing for the possibility of having to destroy the majority of Russias nuclear weapons in the first 24 hours, preferrably by conventional strikes see prompt global strike, B2 bombers etc.
The only people who are so afraid of Russia that they will cower and let them do what they want rather than stand up to them are the lilly livered MAGA types. I can see red blooded Republicans not selecting Trump for this reason
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