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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    We now have thoughts on social media of forces from Ukraine attacking Russia itself, Transnistria, the occupied areas of Ukraine and who knows where. It's unknown unknowns that are not known.

    Thoughts are it's what the Russians did amassing on the Belarussian Ukraine border and sitting there before this invasion. It's to encourage the population in the areas in the expected regions to move and leave before battle commences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Twiceasnice97


    morale. the Russians are listening to the talk and they don't want to be there. no relief no equipment. the only thing keeping them in place is the fear of their own side shooting them . when they are getting hit hard in front they will start to take their chances. the ukrainians will be hoping for mass surrenders. they need prisoner exchanges to get kids and captured troops back



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    Test their willingness to negotiate? In fairness you really couldn't be more wrong.

    The constant threat of what's comming is wearing down the Russians, imagine sitting in a trench day after day, night after night, every little sound is "is this it?" that's how you destroy morale. When it comes they won't even know it's comming until it's too late. This is how you win battles (and wars). The Ukrainians really know what they're doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    No wonder some army recruiters were so eager to sign any half decent or indecent man with two legs.

    The mercenary groups were buying Russian soldiers without any say from said soldiers.

    Story above how men from Crimea ended up in Bahkmut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    And the needles were crooked....one plain, two purl!!! See? I know my needles ( I think?? )



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,371 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Screenshot_20230603-225408_Google.jpg

    I'm not surprised..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Its not for nothing ethnic Russians are not popular in the Republic's. The Kremlin has been screwing them over for donkeys years, and of course there's resentment, And not helped by the mobilization imbalance which stuck out like a sore thumb. Basically Ok to feed the country hicks to the Bakhmut meat grinder, while the Muscovites and St. Petersburg residents are getting off, if not exactly Scot free, then definitely at a reduced rate of mobilizations, and more than likely, selected destinations. I mentioned in an earlier post that I think that any kind of revolt will originate in the Republics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    That's SOP for Russia, it would be the same methods used in any of the republics. Once they are actually picked up, its anyone's guess what happens to them after that. In Putin's mafia /terrorist state, there's no such thing as normal human behaviour or decency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I always thought they looked a bit crochety ;-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yieks.

    US military equipment from our preposition stock in Kuwait was scheduled for Ukraine, but the contractor etc. responsible for maintain the equipment, completely fucked up, almost none of it is mission ready and needs rework.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout



    The evil beauty of their plan is that it also has the benefit of reducing the likelihood of a revolt in the Republics for the simple reason that they are missing so many of their able bodied young men.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The tweet comment gives the ending away but still worth a watch.

    The sheer lack of self-awareness is just... *chef's kiss





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Maybe if enough Russians retweet they will get the point eventually?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭zv2


    Can we have a collection here to buy her a pair of ear muffs so she can study? A euro each should do it.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Might be partially why they ensured men of fighting age are getting killed faster. Sure it annoys the people there more but hurts their ability to revolt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, aside from reducing the nr's of fighting men available for revolution, it also try's to instill a sense of fear in the local population. This is not going to work too well in the Republic's !!! Like Dagestan, Chechnya, North Caucasus, etc. the clan system is alive and well, and very much so, computer age notwithstanding. These deaths and the reasons for them will not be forgotten for a very long time, or forgiven either, (if ever.) Any kind of breakthrough by Ukraine ( especially with these Russian Freedom fighters causing havoc on the border ) could effectively break the security logjam that's keeping the population subdued. Even one Republic refusing to hand over its men to Putin, could trigger a domino effect. Which is why Putin is fighting tooth and nail to prevent it happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    So they will all have to be individually inspected and a report made on each one. Things like breech block misalignment, is for sure a pretty serious item. But I wonder what's involved in correcting the alignment? Big or small job? Fluid changes? Generally, they're not major surgery, even for automatic transmission's. There will be for sure, a large Nr of veh's / equipment etc only needing minor attention. Sure its a set back, but its not an insurmountable one, and better they find out now than if / when they are needed for their planned purpose. Magic Moran will know a lot more about the effects of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭Economics101


    It's getting right back to Stalin and his purges:

    Imagine locking up your best scientists on trumped-up treason charges. (Of course Clare Daly would say I have no evidence that the charges are trumped-up!)

    Russia is really going down the drain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Good!!! They better get used to it, because there's a whole lot more of the same coming their way, and all of the propaganda production from the Kremlin factory of lies telling them that the Russian air defenses are working well and not to worry, is not going to give them much comfort while bombs are falling all round them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    What's going to happen when Russia finally decides there is no distinction between Ukraine and the countries aiding them and reaches for the WMD toolkit? Attacks, no matter how ridiculous in Russia, are incredibly dangerous for a country as heroically paranoid.

    I do wonder what other governments in private say to the Ukrainians about their attempts to spread and rope other nations in to the war.

    Blind eyeism and pretending a bunch of randomers on the Ukraine/Russian border are abusing the situation entirely unaided is not credible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    Or, you could just come out and say you want Russia to win because you're scared of THE BOMB!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,902 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    As credible as Russias little green men in Donbas?

    And arent the annexed regions Russian territory?

    So why is crossing the old border a red line now?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Russians attacking Russians on Russian soil.... Sounds like a Russia problem to me.

    Both Germany and the UK have come out and said Ukrainian attacking military targets within Russia is perfectly justified.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Didn't mention nukes. If they do turn to something like that I think the west will be absolutely terrified and wouldn't have the will to do anything about it in any case. The notion that societies whose main preoccupation today are important things like gender and race politics is going to get involved in such a confrontation i'd struggle to believe.

    This is a war between Russia and Ukraine. I support assistance to Ukraine under the red lines of the US which is for weapon use solely inside the territory of Ukraine.

    If Ukraine can't guarantee those weapons don't fall in to hands of others who want to engage in activities in Russia itself with those same weapons then that support obviously can't continue.

    They need to continuously show they can be trusted on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,544 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well they're going to get vaporised. Obviously.

    Putin and Medvedev will rattle the nuclear sabre all day every day, but they must realise by now that the global west is not afraid of it. They know they've had their bluff called and sent back to them tied to a brick.

    Besides, the people who make up the military brass and the security services and the oligarchy are not going to permit Putin's folly to end the lives of their families and the motherland.

    Without people willing to enact his orders, Putin is nothing. Totally feet of clay. And that's really where we are.

    Him being deposed is only a matter of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    No one needs to wonder what is being said in private, Ukraine is targeting military in russia, the countries supporting Ukraine continue to supply Ukraine while this occurs.

    russia doesn't do boo about it because it's deathly afraid of touching NATO or the EU as that would be the end of it's existence.

    We're watching a russian death spiral, the only question is how long it will take (and it could take many years).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,369 ✭✭✭Field east


    So it’s ok - or is it - for Putin to bite away - bit by bit - at other soverign nations, looking for opportunities in getting his toe in the door and ‘interfering’ in general in the business / politics of some states. Syria , Moldova, Georgia, Kosovo, Ukraine, Belarus come to mind



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,227 ✭✭✭amandstu


    It looks like they might be getting a taste of their own medicine now.

    Is that not always the case with imperial overreach?"

    "Where have all the flowers gone"?



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