F.A. Cup 2023 Thread

Final Result

Manchester City 2 V 1 Manchester United

2022-23 FA Cup Winners

Manchester City

Really poor match but it’s about winning finals.

Pep the genius. I've no idea how he's managed to be so successful, the man's an alchemist.

Yeah, it's great to see City fans celebrating their side destroying football for everybody else. Makes you feel all warm and tingly.

I was having a pop at City not you.

When City get sanctioned for cheating will they lose the cups as well or is it just the Premier league investigating the cheating?

Just to say, I genuinely don't care if City win the treble from a fan point of view. I know one City fan, and he's not even obnoxious.

But if you think what you're watching is legit, you're fooling yourself. It is not normal for the last 4 months of the season to have zero jeopardy. They've never been behind. They've never been in trouble.

Utd, the third best team in England this season, couldn't lay a glove without some Grealish madness. Not a glove.

Arsenal, the second best team this season, couldn't get near them twice in the league.

This is what the FA's ineptitude in dealing with the cheating has done. All it needed was a supercoach to stick around an oil run club for long enough, and a jeopardy-less season has happened. It was inevitable.

No word of a lie, I stopped my football subscriptions in March. I've had them since well before Liverpool under Klopp. The whole thing is lifeless.

In the United era of dominance, and 1999, there was always jeopardy. They were moments from losing or fùcking up multiple times. It's what made it memorable for me, even though I fúcking hated it.

This City is different.

Bang on.

The effort Liverpool put it in for those few years to keep up only resulted in one title and the liklihood of Klopp getting back to that point is minimal.

It took everything they had to achieve that success, City barely break a sweat.

Similarly with Arsenal this year, best league performance in two decades, not good enough.

United had a lot of success under Ferguson, most of it was edge of your seat stuff, the treble was miraculous but every game was on a knife edge.

The Premier League allowed this to happen and in doing so they've devalued their own product.

The toothpaste is out of the tube and all the charges and rumours and innuendo are coming too late.

As much as I dislike City, you have to take the moaning of Utd, Liverpool, Barca, Real Madrid fans with a pinch of salt.

It was all great for decades when they were able to buy the best players, outspend everyone else, get all the decisions etc, but now they aren't winning any more, the toys are out of the pram. They want the old days back, well sorry but they are gone. The authorities have sold the game a long time again. There is no way of going back. And you might all soon be hoping for a super league so you can compete.

That is true but only if city were buying all the good players and paying everyone legally much like Chelsea did, and madrid did for years. But man city decided fir some reason to pay players under the table, just seems totally unnecessary and a bit arrogant.

Since when are the Saudis in for United?

Tbf none of what you're saying seems particularly well informed.

It's Jim Ratcliffe and the Qatari's.

You seem to be ignoring some pretty egregious behaviour by City.

We've all been watching football for decades so that's an odd attempt at establishing some sort eminence here.

Yeah... there's always this narrative that it's just the cabal of 'old' clubs having a problem with City because it encroaches on their turf. As if they're this little elite society sticking together, when in actual fact they have all hated each other during their own fallow periods. So the resentment of a stronger foe has always been there, but with it came a grudging respect. I think it's that latter element that's gone, as a result of the fact that it's all being achieved entirely outside of the football finance eco-system (breaking said eco-system in the process to an extent that will likely lead to some form of implosion before too long).

Also City have created a level of continuous consistent established dominance never before seen. The cycle of teams qualifying for the CL fairly continuously shifted over the years, with everyone having ups and downs, dropping in and out, opening space for other teams to move up and have a pop - but since City first qualified for the CL, they have qualified every single subsequent year. The only team to do so, by a mile. Rather than valiantly breaking down the gates of the old power structures, they've lowered the odds for anyone else making it up - it's now City+3 that will take part in the CL. And it's probably safe to say that very soon it with be City+Newcastle+2.

They aren't moaning about too much money in the game.

They are moaning about the cheating.

You must work for the BBC, they never once mentioned the cheating today either.