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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I find it very strange that the Ukrainians are so publicly announcing this, just like the Wagner video from Bakhmut.

    I mean the upcoming counter-offensive was the worst kept secret but showing your hand seems quite stupid, if truly genuine. I just can't see the logic behind it. I'm open to suggestions abd analysis as to its benefits.

    Personally, this feels like a decoy and the idea is to get the Russians shaking in their boots, some kind of propaganda war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    Counter offensive is already underway lads .... according to Podolyak



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭rogber


    You just proved my point, comrade: now is the time to act, these next months are key. Another interview in the guardian taking the same line:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭rogber


    Can just hear Putin: "they said on twitter you were entering the war last Friday! What happened?! Nevermind. Try this tea"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Autonomously operated F-16 in the works.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    All that experience with drones is coming in handy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,037 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Which General once said after inspecting the troops " I don't know what effect they will have on the enemy, but they scare the hell out of me!!! " ??? Could well apply here too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,741 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,295 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Another good video from my new favourite YouTube channel. Around 20 minutes long but explains well why the counteroffensive is delayed and needs to start shortly.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,499 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Lukashenko back on the nearly deceased list after tea with Putin.

    The Kremlin looking for an easy win in Belarus.

    And to think one time Lukashenko fancied his chances of being head of a new Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Posted a video a video a couple of weeks of the F16 flying autonomously it's highly likely the NGAD f22 replacement will be able to fly manned or unmanned depending on the situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So close and yet so far. If Putin wasn't around he'd have gotten the gig.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,097 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    This just isn't true.

    Ukraine has not captured more territory in the last week than what Russia captured since the start of the year.

    All the history is available for anyone to check ->>> https://deepstatemap.live/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,097 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    A reputable source has suggested that Ukraine and Russia have started negotiations again.

    Russian Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Galuzin listed the following:

    • Ukraine should stop fighting
    • Commit not to join the EU
    • Commit not to join NATO
    • The West should stop supporting Ukraine and supplying weapons
    • Ukraine should accept new territorial "realities"
    • Russian should be made a state language
    • Ukraine should allow Russian(controlled) church.

    Zelensky advisor Mykhaylo Podolyak has responded with the following:

    • Russia withdraws troops from Ukraine
    • Russia recognizes sovereignty of all post-Soviet countries.
    • Russia extradites war criminals and those started the war
    • Russia creates a demilitarized zone
    • Russia reduces the number of long-range missiles.
    • Russia pay reparations for the damages.
    • International community convenes&discusses how to control Russian nukes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Must be about a year since we heard of negotiations.

    Have to laugh at the Russian terms, this isn't 12 months ago. They have been shown to be a paper tiger and they are not negotiating from a position of strength.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Ukraine should definitely push for return of the Donbass and withdrawal of Russian forces in any negotiations as an absolute minimum but Crimea is a different kettle of fish entirely. The inescapable fact of the matter for Ukraine is that in Crimea over 76% of the population are Russian. This will have to be accepted by Ukraine one way or another.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭grumpyperson


    I feel sad looking at this. They seem like nice people and will likely suffer huge casualties if they go back to fight.

    The Ukraine never should have listened to Boris Johnson in April 2022, any deal will likely be much worse now but still it seems wiser to negotiate and at least save some lives than continue the way they have been going....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Each time Ukraine attacks Russian targets in Crimea the % of illegal Russian squatters reduces.

    If Ukraine focus attacks on the bridge, the inescapable fact of the matter for Russia is they won't be able to hold it (assuming Ukraine cut off the land bridge)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Crimea has always been vast majority Russian population. They aren't "squatters". Only 7% of the population is Ukranian. What you seem to want is coercion of that population in to another state. Crimea should never have been part of Ukranian territory following the fall of the Soviet Union. That was a mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Coercion?

    Over 50% of the population of Crimea voted for Ukrainian independence in 1991.

    If you want to talk about coercion, talk about the vote after it was illegally annexed.

    Crimea has always been vast majority Crimean Tatars, not Russians.

    Like 18 countries (and yourself) recognize Crimea as Russian territory, the rest of the world don't. Have a wee think about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭grumpyperson


    Just reading an amalgamation of war news.

    I'm not there, maybe people here can refute the conclusion of the New Yorker et al



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,778 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I think it's time to put this pathetic playbook to bed.

    More in Russia's interest to stop throwing lives into the meat grinder at this stage. Their pathetic invasion has failed, they are the laughing stock of the world, sanctioned to the hilt, the US throwing pocket change at Ukraine to witness the tattered remains of the Russian army being pounded.

    They are locked into an unwinnable war with a country that doesn't really want to be brutally subjugated and annexed, their will to fight isn't going to magically evaporate. It wouldn't if they were losing, it certainly won't when Russia is clearly not winning.

    You are right, it is better that Russia negotiates now rather than continue this pathetic war that's set them back decades militarily, politically, diplomatically and socially.

    Russia does not care about lives, but as the invading country behaving like a mongol horde, perhaps you might say a few words of encouragement that might sway their minds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Another video they made prior to the successful Kharkiv counter offensive. Nobody foresaw how that unfolded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭dennis72


    Crimea is more a part of Ukraine than it has ever been to Russia both physically and historically.

    Russia has used it to invade a sovereign country and harassed international shipping after it illegally annexed it.

    Sooner Ukraine finishes off the kurse bridge the better

    Russia annexes its neighbours now Belarus is about to receive it fate another reason for the west to increase it resolve against this monster

    Cajoling and appeasing Russia has been a waste of time they are pure evil.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭riddles


    A lot of it is psychological when this thing started a lot of people thought Russia would be on the Polish border is a week.

    a year in Russia has expended significant resources to get moderate gains. That said they still have a huge numbers advantage on the Ukraine. Posturing on a counter offensive is like saying you’ve thrown a lot at us now we are hitting back. A bit like Ali’s rope a dope strategy except Ukraine doesn’t really need to do it. The border incursions force Russia to think about spreading resources to a defensive mode which further reduces the offensive momentum.

    it also makes Russia think about how much offensive momentum they can generate if the Ukraines is introducing a whole new weaponry with trained crews.

    in fairness Sun Tzu came up with this fifteen hundred years ago “first have to make yourself look strong, then look for your opponent to make a mistake and then attack.”

    The midget man Putins has made so many mistakes already. 100s of thousands of Russians who have left are surely channeling to family back home the truth about how he thinks about the lives of ordinary Russians and also how’s Russias reputation such as it was is now at a historical low. Add in the fact Russia has spent its 2023 budget already which puts Putin’s on a more time sensitive challenge than people would have thought. Also falling gas and oil revenues etc and the cumulative impact of sanctions.

    Given Putin spent years crafting this plan it’s been a pretty awful one given his strength in numbers. It’s a sad sad indictment of the Russian people’s spineless cowardice that they can’t remove him. A 70 year old midget so insecure he has to wear high heels and hides in bunkers, is sending the country to the ha’ penny place and they just accept it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It feels like Russia has an endless supply of drones from Iran.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    If only the Ukranians had the German army from WW2. As then they'll just throw bodies at it.




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