Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Some kind of cope cage perhaps?

The problem with these fixed nets and cages is it is immobile.

For AA and artillery that are often moved around its not the most practical to have nets and cages surrounding in every direction.

They could have nets etc in a few different locations like fixed emplacements for vehicles to drive into, but then those positions become very easy to look for and the locations of SPGs, HIMARs and mobile AA becomes predictable.

No ...its based on the officers who actually assessed the Ukranian pilots ... not some old chap from the UK

Please do try and keep up.

Not just Bucha

Yes for another 10 days,

More details on the supply of F16s to Ukraine in the article linked below that I can't read. A reported translation says it details how 45 F16s will be sent to Ukraine from Denmark and Holland after upgrade work on them is completed in spite of claims by a poster here on boards that F16s going to Ukraine was never going to happen any time soon:

"Ukraine will receive a total of 45 F-16 fighters, which, after modernization, will be provided by the Netherlands and Denmark.

Soon, Ukraine will immediately receive four squadrons of F-16 fighters, which will be transferred to the Ukrainian Air Force by Holland and Denmark. This was announced on his page on the social network Twitter by an Israeli military expert who writes online under the nickname The Crisis Watch. According to incoming information, Ukraine will receive a total of 45 fighters , which will replace the MiG-29s lost in the first months of the war.

The expert stressed that before being sent to Ukraine, the fighters will undergo a deep modernization in Belgium, which will be carried out by the British aerospace company SABCA.

"I have been informed that 45 ex-Danish and Dutch F-16AM/BM Fighting Falcon fighters will be delivered to the Ukrainian Air Force as a replacement for the MiG-29s lost during the war with the Russian Federation. Aerospace company SABCA in Belgium will overhaul and modernize the aircraft before delivery" , - noted in the message.

At the same time, the speaker of the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Ignat, also made a statement about the number of F-16s that will be handed over to Ukraine. According to him, Ukraine will receive a large batch of aircraft.

"No one will transfer F-16s to Ukraine one by one. They will be transferred by units. An aviation unit is a squadron, in our version it is 12+ aircraft. Western partners have a squadron - this is more, there are up to 18 aircraft. Several dozen aircraft can be transferred to Ukraine to start with to solve current problems ," he said."

Even Ukrainian news saying forces have withdrawan from what left of bakhmut now,

Fair balls to them for holding out for so long

So that would be no Norwegian F16s aren't going to ukraine in the first batch as you said

I didn't realise the airforce officers involved assessing the actual pilots were posting on boards .... 😳 🤔

We share the same opinion so ,

As I said from the very start when we had posters telling us A-10 warthogs were arriving in a few months, didn't happen but I yet Said the exact same thing training and logistics would need to come first so something like 2 + years ,then we had the same posters telling us F18 hornets was a dome deal see you in a few months were just waiting for the announcement, didn't happen, again logistics and training and infrastructure comes first,

Now we're on to F16s there coming in a few months,

But what about training, logistics and infrastructure first and foremost will take about 2 years according to experts and pilots themselves,

It will be a multi year program,but I never said they weren't going to get them ever as I said since last year it won't happen overnight,

No idea where your getting this notion of twisting myself in knots, I've been saying exactly what I said for all of the other Nato/American aircraft that didn't happen,

But like others before make a claim,then stop posting about it then come back and say I'm gettin you...or something similar but yet never happens.

I am not quoting boardsies.... I'm quoting the actual assesors ... try focus on that and then come back with a somewhat coherent reply

Based off two lads spending a few days in a simulator ,

Training pilots in the real world takes longer as well as training the maintenance crews that's going to take a hell of a lot of time ,

Training and basic logistics isn't going to happen in 4 months .

And yet this poster is right,

It's all misinformation now,

So the experts have said 2 years, previous f16 programs have taken 3 years,

Random boards guy I don't actually know but I'll keep saying something to try prove the other guy wrong 😂