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Eurovision Song Contest 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,030 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    For me, Poland has started to become an earworm now that I can focus on the song and less on the, ahem, visuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,812 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Omg I love Fairytale, I still listen to it regularly.

    Class song with the violin 🎻.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I agree. Ordinarily I am not supportive of Israel and they’re not a country I have much time for because of their actions internationally. I don’t know what it is though. I leave all that at the door when Eurovision is concerned. I think that’s one good thing about Eurovision. It’s not political per se. It gives countries who usually are bad actors to show a better side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    I get ya. I loved Dana International back in 1998. Even though it seems very weak vocally and staging wise today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,429 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Marty Whelan confirmed today that he has no intention of retiring.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    He really should. I watched that Eurovision Legends thing they showed before the show last Saturday with the bould Marty as master of ceremonies. It really looked like an OAP wandered onto the stage and was let present. We need someone youthful doing the job.

    I just read that he’s only 66. Could have fooled me. He comes across as being much older. He was a bit doddery I thought on that Eurovision show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    I actually really like that song too. I love the acrobatic dancer guys. My favourite Norwegian entry is Secret Garden from 1995...although we can claim it as a bit Irish too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭delboy85


    Just catching up on this thread.

    I thought it was a great show and the BBC did well and from all accounts Liverpool was a great host city.

    Bit gutted that Finland lost out. The juries do seem to usually love Sweden most years (whether they deserve it or not). I liked the Loreen song but I was rooting for Finland. But I was a bit surprised that the juries went for Sweden SO strongly. But the conspiracy theories are tiresome.

    For those claiming that the juries have too much power, ESC United pointed out an interesting stat. Since the voting was changed to 50/50 in 2016 the song that has finished either 1st or 2nd in the televote has gone on to be the overall winner every year. The same can't be said for jury winners.

    I'm in favour of the juries remaining but there needs to be more jury members in each country. 5 seems way too low to me. Surely 8-10 jury members would make more sense.

    There was a reason the juries were brought back in 2009. The noughties were a real low point in my opinion with televoting only. It really highlighted the diaspora voting and novelty songs doing better. I think the over all standard of songs has improved greatly since then.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Same. 4 days on and now the hype has died down the song stuck in my head is Poland. Once I hit past the aesthetics lol it is an earworm and she performed it really well I thought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,030 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Been delving into the back catalogues of Voyager, Lord Of The Lost and Käärijä (and naturally, downloaded Dadi Freyr’s cover of ‘Whole Again’). :)

    Me likey this Roxette cover very much…





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,030 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Spain have already begun the search for next year’s song!

    Take note, RTE: This is how you do it (though sadly, we already know that you won’t)!





  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Makes sense. Deciding to hunt fur entries next November to have 6 whittled down for December or Jan won’t get us anywhere as usual. Definitely start now and even give people til July to get a final entry. Plenty of time then to sort things. I’ve an awful feeling nothing happens in Rte once the song is picked til early April when they decide to rehearse and stage it. I’d love to be wrong.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Absolutely cracking version. I would even bet Per Gessle from Roxette would give that the thumbs up. Great refresh and reminds me why I loved The Look first time round. If they’d asked Per to write them a banger like that they might face done better. Undeserving result really for them. Would be fun to get Per to Co-write an entry for us. He’s still doing good stuff IMHO. then there’s name recognition abroad as well.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    24 words , 35 seconds of singing vs. 2 minutes of violin solo. They changed the rules after that one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Sweden won before they even picked the singer and the song.

    It was pre destined for Stockholm in 2024. Abba's 50th.

    That's how it seemed anyway.

    They can't explain the discrepancy between the jury and public votes away as just nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,751 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,642 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Didn't RTE admit they only start searching in September?! Pretty telling



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    It was kind of sickening watching that Rte legends of Eurovision show with Marty talking about how we had over the most Eurovisions but Sweden were closing in “but hopefully they won’t do it this year”. Nobody from RTE shoujd be expressing opinions like that when they’re blatantly pi$$ing away any hope we have of being competitive year after year after year now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    I suppose we can't complain. Some of the 90's Irish wins had me equally baffled too.

    Maybe the wine and dine treatment the contingents and commentators got in Ireland made them want to come back year after year. And they did.

    So douze-pointe all the way for five years straight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭weadick


    Probably my favourite Eurovision song though. It was all about Fionualla Sherry.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,847 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    I think the conspiracy theories are going a bit far tbh. Sweden are gods of Eurovision and know exactly what the juries will vote for, it was very clear from the moment Loreen was picked she was going to get a huge jury vote. This, coupled with the fact 2023 was a relatively weak year with no other obvious jury bait, meant that the jury score wasn't surprising at all. Also, Tattoo is actually a pretty decent song, as shown by getting ranked 2nd in the televote!

    I'm still a bit miffed by Sweden's win but I highly doubt anything untoward happened here.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Yeah to be fair if there was widespread fixing we should at least be getting to the final year on year with Noel Curran in there as the head honcho as the head of the EBU and Mr Eimer Quinn to boot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭glitterIsland


    The Croatia lads looked ridiculous but the song is finally growing on me and it's stuck in my head -

    Mama Kupa....

    It's stuck in my head.

    I love it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Agree entirely. We (Ireland) have won all our 7 titles on a jury verdict and have never come within an ass's roar of winning a Eurovision on the popular vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,030 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    My god, the Croatia song really is an earworm!!

    Having not thought about it at all since Saturday, it suddenly popped into my head just now!!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    It was like Queen on crack cocaine

    More mad bastards like that and less dreary sh1te like Switzerland and Lithunaia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77,030 ✭✭✭✭Welsh Megaman


    Love this picture…The King and Queen.

    :)


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    Post edited by Welsh Megaman on


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    What's Loreen been doing since she last won it, given there's feck all money to be made in music these days, I'm guessing she's had some "real" jobs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    I think it's fairly clear at this stage that Loreen copied elements of the original My Lovely Horse - Frs. Crilly and Maguire composition. Especially with regard to longer pauses.

    'No I don't care about the rain (pause)

    I'll walk through fire and through rain (pause)'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,308 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So they sent in an entry to not win as so expensive to host but it backfired :)

    Is that why the song is so crap?

    *rolls finnish grenade and leaves*

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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