Advertisement
Please note that it is not permitted to have referral links posted in your signature. Keep these links contained in the appropriate forum. Thank you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2055940817/signature-rules
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
If we do not hit our goal we will be forced to close the site.

Current status: https://keepboardsalive.com/

Annual subs are best for most impact. If you are still undecided on going Ad Free - you can also donate using the Paypal Donate option. All contribution helps. Thank you.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.

CircleK Chargers

«1345678

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Someone who installed this told me it’s in a month and Circle K still haven’t activated it. Fermoy.

    A8E2798A-E846-4500-9E69-E11C242A11C5.jpeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,835 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    I think there's a separate thread for the Circle K installs?

    The one at Tinryland in Carlow is in since July or August last year and it's still not switched on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Can't see why Shell, Statoil, Topaz, Circle K or whatever they will be called next week, would be interested in diverting cash from the oil industry. I expect a statement such as "these don't work, electricity is not the future, switch back to diesel" or such from them in the near future



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    CircleK aren't part of an oil company, they're part of the Couche-Tard group which is a global convenience store business, they own petrol stations to get you into the profitable part of the business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,958 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    exactly, its not about the pesky fuel, one of their outlets does 2500 coffee a day on average, 1m a year.,

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Considering Circle K and Shell are both expanding charging networks in Europe I'm not sure that's the case. I imagine they're under significant pressure from their home governments to invest in green technology

    Frankly I think they're both seeing the writing on the wall and are trying to diversify or get left behind


    They've certainly far from heroes but I'll put them ahead of the likes of Exxon or Texaco who are still very much doing nothing

    Regarding their lack of chargers in Ireland, I assume that's the usual story of us being down the priority list and there being more lucrative business elsewhere

    We get paddy spec cars so I guess we'll have to suffice with a paddy spec charging network from some providers

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    How do you explain the Circle K chargers that are ready to go for months but not turned on or the 15kW some drivers get from the Applegreen chargers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    ESBN taking ages with the grid connection, been talked about before

    I'll admit they make a great whipping boy for all the charging networks problems, but it's been noted on many occasions that the timeline for installing a 300kW connection can be months, if not years

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    It's a pity we don't have a publicly owned electrical utility that can fix these problems isn't it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,958 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Easygo installed a charger at a lidl and only 6 months later was it powered up, so I think petrol station owners underestimate the amount of time needed for a grid connection upgrade. Some got canvas covers over them to stop them rusting before being turned on.

    Back on topic one of these had a rain cover added. Most are listed on plugshare app as "coming soon" but it's a handy place to add photos and a status over time. You can sometimes see planning reference, ground works, charger in place, charger on timelines, which can take multiple years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,835 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm



    Couldn't find the Circle K thread so posting here for the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Oh yay, another SPOF site. 300kW isn't much use if the charger is broken or iced 🙄

    €7 million doesn't seem like a lot tbh, how many chargers is that going to buy at 150kW each, considering the grid connection will need upgrading? 🤔

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,103 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Was just commenting on the Random EV thoughts thread, but I'm not particularly impressed. Circle K installing SPOF chargers isn't a good start.

    300kW is nice, but useless if someone parks a truck in front of the charger

    30 sites with €7 million is around €230k per site. Maybe enough for 2 chargers per site? Would make sense given Circle K have said next sites will be 150kW

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,103 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It also mentioned that these 2 ‘flagship’ sites are 300kW, but that all the other sites will be 150kW…


    These first two locations will offer charging speeds of up to 300kW, with future chargers to offer 150kW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It's not very clear whether it'll be 150kW per charger or per site

    Hopefully per charger, we've seen from the Clonsaugh planning permission that they're planning multiple units on some sites at least

    Hopefully they at least go for something similar to Applegreen with 2 chargers serving 4 spaces, that's a decent starting point

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,103 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah, we all win, and it’s great to see Applegreen & Circle K added to eCars & Easygo in relation to putting in DC chargers…. We’ve desperately needed a roll out at this sort of level….. and need it to continue… (Ionity need to start sh1tting now too and start expanding their offerings…)

    I’d bet as well AG & Circle K will be the first of the providers to start expanding the sites too when they see how busy they get and how much revenue they generate…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,327 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    If it's anything like their fuel prices I shudder to imagine what the unit rates will be...



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    You'd hope CircleK would have the most experience of any forecourt charging operation given their experience in other jurisdictions.

    I've seen some UK operators indicating that they see higher customer satisfaction from multiple 150kW chargers instead of fewer 350kW units.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭MarkN


    150kW is perfect, I've rarely seen the charging curve of any EV sustain higher for any worthwhile length of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    At the moment I agree, chargers aren't ubiquitous enough that you can be sure there's a charger available when you're at the ideal conditions for getting your fastest charging speeds

    However, it'd be nice to see motorway service stations being a bit more ambitious and maybe installing 300kW capable chargers and upgrading the grid connection later when the cars catch up

    Then again, it wouldn't be too difficult to replace 150kW units with 300kW ones and move the old units to somewhere more useful, so maybe I'm future proofing too much

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I dunno how much communication there is between the different groups in each country.

    I've generally got the impression that it would only be the senior management of each country reporting into managers in Norway

    I'm not yet convinced there's a group handling a single user experience for all Circle K chargers throughout Europe

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Following on from the post in the "new charger locations thread" I felt a new thread for these chargers would be beneficial

    Currently 2 operational locations, Rathcrogue in Carlow at M9 J5 and Fermoy in Cork at M8 J14

    Existing sites are capable of power levels up to 300kW, new sites that are not on motorways will reportedly be 150kW

    Reported pricing according to plugshare is €0.69/kWh. Payment is via credit card which also does a €20 pre-auth.

    There are 2 CCS and one Chademo available at each of the two location so 2 cars at a time can charge, cables look long enough to reach most cars




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    No. It's not future proofed. With the advent of silicon anodes and Na-ion both of which increase fast charging rates 150 kW will be in a situation where 50 kW DC is now (inadequate) in few years max.

    Kia EV6 charges above 150 kW up to 80% SOC and maxes out at 230 kW at 50% SOC.

    Untitled Image

    Even MG4 maxes at 143 kW (averages 100) and that's a cheap Chinese car. And then you have load balancing etc. 150 kW is too low if you make a long term relationship strategic investment.

    It's not a good strategy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,240 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I couldn't help but laugh at the fact that they used a picture of a Norwegian hub. They must not have been impressed with the Irish ones

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,995 ✭✭✭McGiver


    A) No hubs planned ✅

    B) Broken road surface, stupidly designed parking bays, cows in the process of making a cow dung in the background? You don't want to put a photo of that in a press release 😎



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭innrain


    The alternative was Eamonn with a single charger not connected to the grid.



Advertisement