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Victory day parade organised in Dublin by the Russian supporters

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  • 03-05-2023 5:42pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3


    How is it possible that Russian supporters can organise a parade in Dublin to support Russia?

    Event will take place in Western Industrial Estate D12 on May 7th

    One of the Ukrainian refugees pointed out to me that there will be a parade organised by the Russian embassy outfit on facebook with the direct stream to Russian propaganda channels.

    Permit granted by the Dublin council and security provided by the Garda

    After the comments made by the their ambassador and what they are doing in Ukraine how is it possible?

    Leaflet attached

    Threadbans

    Run Forest Run

    Yurt2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,694 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    People can print any old lies on a pamphlet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 81,980 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ah let them have their pretend



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Any Russian that participates in the parade should lose their Irish passport, be deported anyway - banned from ever entering this country again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Are they not exercising their democratic right to free association?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It's called freedom and being in a free country. Let them have their façade. They're only fooling themselves. Best ignored.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Molotov cocktails , Russians don't like Molotov cocktails,

    Hilariously fake flyer though



  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭glen123


    Flyer could be fake but Russian speaking in Ireland FB group has the announcement about it all right.

    Then again, celebrating Victory Day against Nazis in which so many nationalities took part and supporting Russia (with Russia not mentioned in either leaflet or on FB) isn’t that straightforward to ban as technically they are very different things.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,518 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I thought it would be somewhere public. But Western Industrial Estate? Home to Drain Doctor and various courier depots? Bizarre.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,934 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Is the industrial estate not privately owned ? Surely the estate management could and would disallow that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭glen123


    It’s going to be Road run first,by the looks of it.Then they ll have bbq but in a different location going by the below FB post I found as location of the bbq will be given to the drivers when they gather for the run?

    No taking part in a road run, no food😀

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    Dear friends! This is great news! 🎉🎉🎉We have almost completed the preparation for the Road Race. And we are pleased to announce that Garda has been notified, insurances have been paid and the venue for the big barbecue picnic has been approved.

    🎈 The Victory Day race is scheduled for May 7, 2023. Collection of vehicles at Western Industrial Estate, Dublin, D12 HD68.

    🎈 The gathering starts at 10.00 a.m. 10 to 11 column structure. Departure is strictly at 11.00. The address of the picnic will be given at the location to the drivers of all cars arriving at the Runway.

    🎈Attention! Don't get it twisted. ☝️ Collection and column construction point: Western Industrial Estate, Dublin, D12 HD68



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  • Registered Users Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Get Real


    Agree with this Jim. I cannot emphasise enough how much I fundamentally disagree with this group. But I don't think they should be banned from being allowed to peacefully assemble like anyone else.

    OP, it's possible for these Russians to organise this parade in Dublin because we're not Russia. I think it'd be very hypocritical to ban them from doing so while we rightly all condemn Russia for engaging in similar tactics.

    Let's laugh at them and make our own informed opinions. See how small a group they are and disagree with them. But you can't ban them because you disagree with them.

    It's also good to show that people with these views exist so that we don't get complacent. So that the majority can acknowledge they exist rather than block them off and pretend they don't.

    There's no mute or block button in real life and their right to assemble should be respected. Not that they themselves have to be respected or that they'd afford us the same respect.

    But because we disagree with them, doesn't mean we can sensor them. In fact, I think it's even more dangerous as it allows certain groups to grow underground and slowly bubble away, gradually increasing their influence in people's mindset.

    Shine a light on them, allow them to be seen, and have a rational and logical approach as to why they're wrong. When we forget, society gets lax and they grow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Somewhere in Dublin a Ukranian buys a drone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,454 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The usual leftie activists, no one else Irish will be at it.


    Don't give them any attention.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Except when it's far-right Nazis and so on, the left want them banned.

    But when Russians want to support what is effectively a Nazi-esque invasion and genocide of Ukraine, the same voices say, "best ignored".

    You're either consistent or you're a hypocrite.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It doesn't work like that,

    Russian don't think logically the best approach to situations is shining light and thinking you can educate them,

    Don't think we will get any volunteers for that ,



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,258 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Nah fcuk that. People should counter protest with Ukranian flags n banners.

    This march is not a commemorate ww2 event, its an pro Putin pro war propaganda spectacle. Fcuk em.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,871 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The roads of the WIE are public. Still and all, it's a strange location.

    This is a traditional national day for Russians going back to WWII, one they rightfully celebrate as the western allies still celebrate VE day.

    Howevvvvvvvvver.

    There is a strong and pretty much irredeemable bigoted ultra-nationalism attached to all the celebrating Russians do. In other words, it is seldom not at someone else's expense.

    So, this event should be discretely policed, but if the slightest bit of anti-Ukranian activity or symbology emerges, it should be shut down and dispersed immediately.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,934 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ok… thanks.

    however, if we are talking a few hundred people, or more, have the Gardai the resources to disperse such a crowd safely ?

    I know the Gardai police major sports events but those don’t have the same possibility of unrest, malice, menace and difficulty….

    also I’m sure the estate will have people working even on a Sunday, most industrial areas will, even on a small scale, there would be security, warehousing people etc….even deliveries of inventory before the working week.

    wonder will the Russians use it as a show of strength ? Maybe a bit pissed about the solidarity shown here for the Ukrainians and they’ve had their collective ego offended … so what might transpire ? VE celebrations or a nationalistic shot across the bow aka shît stirring ? Be interesting either way. Why now ? :). Odd timing. Eh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Western Industrial estate really is nowhere town though.

    A concrete corner in subsector 7G. 35 industry way. If you want no-one to care about a parade its perfect. And on a Sunday.




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    If Russia is so great, why are these Putin lovers living here?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This is the same crowd that's being driving jeeps through the fields around the curragh



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭64869923


    There is a strong and pretty much irredeemable bigoted ultra-nationalism attached to all the celebrating Russians do. In other words, it is seldom not at someone else's expense.

    Hmmm...I wonder what the word is for applying one characteristic to an entire nation of people and every celebration they have.

    So, this event should be discretely policed, but if the slightest bit of anti-Ukranian activity or symbology emerges, it should be shut down and dispersed immediately.

    Sure we all know when foreign people land on this shore they instantly become Irish. The ridiculous truth is that many will more than likely have Irish citizenship, and by definition, are Irish. As Irish citizens they are allowed to hold their opinion no matter who dislikes it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    User not found.....


    Odd



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭64869923


    Nope. Some are, then there are the ultra-nationalists, and then all the other shades of opinion.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭glen123


    For many it would be Latvia and Ukraine, btw, if you knew who had participated in this annual event for many years going back to at least 2010 ))



  • Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭64869923


    Of those who live here many are Irish citizens, they are merely celebrating their heritage/history. That's whether any of us like it or not.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Well they are free to leave anytime,

    Deportation sounds like a good start



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