Victory day parade organised in Dublin by the Russian supporters

marconi11

How is it possible that Russian supporters can organise a parade in Dublin to support Russia?

Event will take place in Western Industrial Estate D12 on May 7th

One of the Ukrainian refugees pointed out to me that there will be a parade organised by the Russian embassy outfit on facebook with the direct stream to Russian propaganda channels.

Permit granted by the Dublin council and security provided by the Garda

After the comments made by the their ambassador and what they are doing in Ukraine how is it possible?

Leaflet attached

victorydayparade.jpg

Threadbans

Run Forest Run

Yurt2

Brussels Sprout

People can print any old lies on a pamphlet.

Overheal

Ah let them have their pretend

Any Russian that participates in the parade should lose their Irish passport, be deported anyway - banned from ever entering this country again.

Allinall

Are they not exercising their democratic right to free association?

Jim_Hodge

It's called freedom and being in a free country. Let them have their façade. They're only fooling themselves. Best ignored.

Gatling

Molotov cocktails , Russians don't like Molotov cocktails,

Hilariously fake flyer though

glen123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551839#Comment_120551839

Flyer could be fake but Russian speaking in Ireland FB group has the announcement about it all right.

Then again, celebrating Victory Day against Nazis in which so many nationalities took part and supporting Russia (with Russia not mentioned in either leaflet or on FB) isn’t that straightforward to ban as technically they are very different things.

Mr. CooL ICE

I thought it would be somewhere public. But Western Industrial Estate? Home to Drain Doctor and various courier depots? Bizarre.

Strumms

Is the industrial estate not privately owned ? Surely the estate management could and would disallow that.

glen123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552195#Comment_120552195

It’s going to be Road run first,by the looks of it.Then they ll have bbq but in a different location going by the below FB post I found as location of the bbq will be given to the drivers when they gather for the run?

No taking part in a road run, no food😀

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Dear friends! This is great news! 🎉🎉🎉We have almost completed the preparation for the Road Race. And we are pleased to announce that Garda has been notified, insurances have been paid and the venue for the big barbecue picnic has been approved.

🎈 The Victory Day race is scheduled for May 7, 2023. Collection of vehicles at Western Industrial Estate, Dublin, D12 HD68.

🎈 The gathering starts at 10.00 a.m. 10 to 11 column structure. Departure is strictly at 11.00. The address of the picnic will be given at the location to the drivers of all cars arriving at the Runway.

🎈Attention! Don't get it twisted. ☝️ Collection and column construction point: Western Industrial Estate, Dublin, D12 HD68

Get Real

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551709#Comment_120551709

Agree with this Jim. I cannot emphasise enough how much I fundamentally disagree with this group. But I don't think they should be banned from being allowed to peacefully assemble like anyone else.

OP, it's possible for these Russians to organise this parade in Dublin because we're not Russia. I think it'd be very hypocritical to ban them from doing so while we rightly all condemn Russia for engaging in similar tactics.

Let's laugh at them and make our own informed opinions. See how small a group they are and disagree with them. But you can't ban them because you disagree with them.

It's also good to show that people with these views exist so that we don't get complacent. So that the majority can acknowledge they exist rather than block them off and pretend they don't.

There's no mute or block button in real life and their right to assemble should be respected. Not that they themselves have to be respected or that they'd afford us the same respect.

But because we disagree with them, doesn't mean we can sensor them. In fact, I think it's even more dangerous as it allows certain groups to grow underground and slowly bubble away, gradually increasing their influence in people's mindset.

Shine a light on them, allow them to be seen, and have a rational and logical approach as to why they're wrong. When we forget, society gets lax and they grow.

greencap

Somewhere in Dublin a Ukranian buys a drone.

Danzy

The usual leftie activists, no one else Irish will be at it.

Don't give them any attention.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551709#Comment_120551709

Except when it's far-right Nazis and so on, the left want them banned.

But when Russians want to support what is effectively a Nazi-esque invasion and genocide of Ukraine, the same voices say, "best ignored".

You're either consistent or you're a hypocrite.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552320#Comment_120552320

It doesn't work like that,

Russian don't think logically the best approach to situations is shining light and thinking you can educate them,

Don't think we will get any volunteers for that ,

TheValeyard

Nah fcuk that. People should counter protest with Ukranian flags n banners.

This march is not a commemorate ww2 event, its an pro Putin pro war propaganda spectacle. Fcuk em.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552250#Comment_120552250

The roads of the WIE are public. Still and all, it's a strange location.

This is a traditional national day for Russians going back to WWII, one they rightfully celebrate as the western allies still celebrate VE day.

Howevvvvvvvvver.

There is a strong and pretty much irredeemable bigoted ultra-nationalism attached to all the celebrating Russians do. In other words, it is seldom not at someone else's expense.

So, this event should be discretely policed, but if the slightest bit of anti-Ukranian activity or symbology emerges, it should be shut down and dispersed immediately.

Strumms

ok… thanks.

however, if we are talking a few hundred people, or more, have the Gardai the resources to disperse such a crowd safely ?

I know the Gardai police major sports events but those don’t have the same possibility of unrest, malice, menace and difficulty….

also I’m sure the estate will have people working even on a Sunday, most industrial areas will, even on a small scale, there would be security, warehousing people etc….even deliveries of inventory before the working week.

wonder will the Russians use it as a show of strength ? Maybe a bit pissed about the solidarity shown here for the Ukrainians and they’ve had their collective ego offended … so what might transpire ? VE celebrations or a nationalistic shot across the bow aka shît stirring ? Be interesting either way. Why now ? :). Odd timing. Eh.

greencap

Western Industrial estate really is nowhere town though.

A concrete corner in subsector 7G. 35 industry way. If you want no-one to care about a parade its perfect. And on a Sunday.

opinionated3

If Russia is so great, why are these Putin lovers living here?

Gatling

This is the same crowd that's being driving jeeps through the fields around the curragh

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552589#Comment_120552589

There is a strong and pretty much irredeemable bigoted ultra-nationalism attached to all the celebrating Russians do. In other words, it is seldom not at someone else's expense.

Hmmm...I wonder what the word is for applying one characteristic to an entire nation of people and every celebration they have.

So, this event should be discretely policed, but if the slightest bit of anti-Ukranian activity or symbology emerges, it should be shut down and dispersed immediately.

Sure we all know when foreign people land on this shore they instantly become Irish. The ridiculous truth is that many will more than likely have Irish citizenship, and by definition, are Irish. As Irish citizens they are allowed to hold their opinion no matter who dislikes it.

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551708#Comment_120551708

Yes, many here will not like that.

Gatling

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Odd

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552673#Comment_120552673

Nope. Some are, then there are the ultra-nationalists, and then all the other shades of opinion.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552684#Comment_120552684

There free to return to the motherland

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552681#Comment_120552681

Hmmm....it is actually.

glen123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552686#Comment_120552686

For many it would be Latvia and Ukraine, btw, if you knew who had participated in this annual event for many years going back to at least 2010 ))

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552686#Comment_120552686

Of those who live here many are Irish citizens, they are merely celebrating their heritage/history. That's whether any of us like it or not.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552695#Comment_120552695

Well they are free to leave anytime,

Deportation sounds like a good start

64869923

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552697#Comment_120552697

As a nation we have let in loads of people, we don't know what many of them believe, these include nazis, ethnic cleansers, drug dealers, child sex smugglers and islamic terrorists. We have given them citizenship, by that logic they can only be deported to here as their Irish through a passport. I have no particular love for Russia or Ukraine for that matter. If we are deporting the Russians for being nazis then we need to look at Ukrainians and those who were previously of another nationality.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552703#Comment_120552703

More excuses ,

They can be deported they also hold Russian passports , problem solved

Ramasun

Sounds like a Love Ulster Parade II with added Mick Wallace and Clare Daly.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552673#Comment_120552673

Its they're and they're not.

Nazis were specifically German and of the national socialist worker's party era, so no one is a nazi anymore.

Russian proto-fascist ultra-nationalist, definitely, but not nazis, which is a redundant and lazy label which fails to address actual Russian behaviour.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552679#Comment_120552679

And if it was a parade of full nazi era uniforms and symbols with all the music and the banners, where would you be drawing the line then?

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552497#Comment_120552497

Not following your logic there, sorry.

tesla_newbie

This celebrates victory over Nazi Germany in WW2 , I’d have no problem with such ( an inevitably small ) event

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120551692#Comment_120551692

Let them gather, round them up and deport.

artanevilla

Is the BBQ free?

HBC08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552673#Comment_120552673

Where all Nazis?

Economics101

For some reason these clowns using an industrial estate as a venue for whatever reminds me of Rudi Giuliani's hilarious misadventure into a suburban retail development.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/why-did-rudy-giuliani-hold-a-press-conference-in-a-small-car-park-on-the-outskirts-of-philadelphia-1.4403600

🤣

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553121#Comment_120553121

It's out of sight from the public view but they travel in convoys then to the Kildare with their cars cover in Russian and Soviet flags ,

Oddly enough several charities who directly support ukraine operate out of the same estate

Lionel Fusco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120552765#Comment_120552765

You'd have to go to Ukraine or the baltic states to see something like that. On the wider point this is a few dozen people in an industrial estate on a Sunday 99.99% of the Irish people won't even know this has happened it's a non event.

charlie_says

If you really wanted to anger the parade as it's to celebrate Soviet Union victory over the Nazi German state in 1945, have a counter protest with Ukrainian Azov battalion, Right Sector, S14 etc, flags banners and posters as the neo nazi supporting political and military organizations would really annoy the parade people!

Take that Putler!

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553215#Comment_120553215

They will be travelling to Kildare after, there will no doubt be flags and symbols displayed and like the incident in Swords last year, shortly after the outbreak of the war, there will be potential for hateful and intimidatory messaging and symbology.

So whether it's a few dozen or a few hundred, this event must be policed and any Russian nationalist carry-on snuffed out.

Lionel Fusco

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553285#Comment_120553285

I'm sure it will be policed but it is not illegal to fly a Russian or Soviet flag so I don't see why the Gardaí would be doing any snuffing out.

growleaves

Stripping someone of citizenship and deportation can be overturned by the Supreme Court and I'm guessing would be in this case?

By handing out citizenship to so many foreigners in the last three decades we've inherited a panoply of ethnic grudges and agendas we don't necessarily share or sympathise with. That can be messy.

Esho

Yes, the majority of Russians I've met have a mlnast

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120553217#Comment_120553217

Are you paid per post

slay55

I don’t see the issue , they are celebrating their victory in ww2

Hope the weather is nice and they have a fabulous time