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Looks like it worked wonders in Kiev overnight

What?

No it dosen't, if anything it increases peoples hatred towards the perpetrators, hardens resistance, and can even get people to rally around a previously disliked or unpopular government.

There often seems to be a racist/xenaphobic attitude towards mass civilian attacks ie: If it happens to us "we will never surrender" (Blitz Sprit), but they are weak and can't take it.

Try to disappoint me all you like. I deal in reality, not make believe. Doesn't matter how I or anyone else feels about it.

Are you the same Kermit that posts mainly in the fantasy Island section on the weather board?

A referendum???????? . Are you out of your mind ? OK then .I will go along with your idea re the referendum on the condition that Putin repatriates all the UKr he forcefully removed , directly or indirectly from UKr occupied territory, that the Tarters are allowed to return from past ‘genocides’ of them and that some ‘ discount is calculated for the UKr killed since 1991.

what do you think Putin is at in ‘shifting/rearranging’ the population around the place , in his scorched earth policy where villages, towns, cities are raised to the ground, etc, etc and repopulating same with people from Moscovy and especially those from the East - being promised a BETTER life!!!!!

The longer they drag their heals with this offensive the more exposed their stockpiles becomes to attack. I hope they've not missed their chance pandering to outside political pressure.

I appreciate its a fine line though, keeping your friends supplying you happy while also doing what you feel is right for your country.

Come off it, have you seen the footage of that explosion? That was an arms dump - not a "chemical plant that produces explosives". The weapons were lighting the sky for 3 hours.

Do you believe a "chemical plant that produces explosives" would not have been levelled literally at the start of the war??

There is a serious point to be made about corruption in Ukraine. A non-condusive environment to keeping secrets to say the least.

I find it hard to believe that the Ukrainian military would be inclined to replicate the Russian's habit of stockpiling ammo and equipment in large concentrations. That led to several of their dumps being blown up last autumn. Something blew and there was a big fire, but what?

Reportedly it was a chemical plant where old ICBM rockets were to be decommissioned and hundreds of tons of rocket fuel were stored. Possibly ammunition was stored there also, at this stage I've seen countless strikes on ammo dumps.

Ukraine likely has hundreds of ammo dumps, if not thousands, why would you assume a strike on one ends a counter offensive?

No .

If Russia bombs and missles keep coming it's the people who will start asking questions, comparison to the blitz doesn't come close ,

It's not losing losing one ammunition dump Being significant,but losing a single large ammunition dump before a big counter offensive is to start and a publicised ammunition Shortage, but if Russia has the co-ordinace of other dumps this could cause panic, Which the Ukrainans would need to start moving ammunition to prevent this happening again

I have to disagree. Its exactly the same as the blitz. It reinforces the general population against the aggressor. It reminds them of the he cost of losing.

It also shows the poor quality of the Russian military. It's highlights there inability to strike at small targets. Generally it shows that there targeting is a blunt instrument and has not pinpoint accuracy.

Russia has shown an inability to hit with pinpoint accuracy military targets. A chemical plant producing explosives will have these stored in various stores in the plant. It will also have different chemicals in different stores that are required to to make different explosive types.

There is nothing we have yet seen that indicates that Russia has the ability to accurately pinpoint targets. They would know the exact location and positioning of an explosive plant compared to ammunition dumps. It highly unlikely that the UA is using old arms dumps that Russia know the location of. An explosive production facility is not easily moved

What is amazing is it took them so long to take it out. You would have imagined that a facility like that would have been hit early in the conflict. There is no record that such plants have been consistently hit over the last 12 months.

It much easier to take out electrical infrastructure they structurally larger and hitting the infrastructure anywhere will reduce it ability to produce or distribute power.

This war is only going one way and the offensivie will show that when it happens.

Helping Ukraine is helping yourself.

Along with Zelensky and the Ukraine cabinet...