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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Your words were:

    "Looks like Kherson is to be evacuated due to Russian artillery strikes , hopefully the Ukrainians can remove the majority of people,and anyone who wants to stay dragged kicking and screaming away ,"

    Your link just has a quotation from a brief sky news report of an official talking about making contingency plans. Do you not see any difference between what you said and the report you provided a link to?

    Over the last few weeks there have been a growing number of your points on this thread that seem very far away from any one elses interpretation of the information coming from Ukraine. For example where did you get the figure that Ukraine only has 40,000 artillery shells? This type of information I would have thought would be highly classified yet you talk anbout it as if you know these numbers as facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @macraignil For example where did you get the figure that Ukraine only has 40,000 artillery shells? This type of information I would have thought would be highly classified ..

    Again not what I said , I never said ukraine only has 40,000 artillery shells , no where did I say that

    " For example where did you get the figure that Ukraine only has 40,000 artillery shells? This type of information I would have thought would be highly classified "


    Why would it be highly classified and by who



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    To Quote what you said in full just in the last page of the thread:

    "Not if they don't receive the 1 million shells that they were promised don't materialise ,were half way through the year and they received 40,000 ,

    What's the current shell use for Ukraine on a monthly basis?

    Langley, Virginia"

    Obviously the Ukrainians are not going to publicise exactly how many artillery shells they get for tactical reasons and they would be the ones to keep this information classified, so how are you so confident you know the number?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    So where in that does it say I said "ukraine only has 40,000 artillery shells "

    So you said I said ,and your still going

    You didn't read a post properly and tried to put words into my mouth



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I pray to God a summer counter offensive liberates all of Kherson oblast. It's the only thing that would save Kherson city from constant artillery shelling.

    They'll still use missiles but artillery is the main killer. Mykolaiv used to get this Russian treatment but since Kherson city was freed it's subsided.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More on the Russian missle which was recently discovered in Poland,fired 5 months ago,

    This could have major implications for Nato ,the missle which was apparently found in a Polish Forrest was a cruise missile carrying a dummy warhead to distract Ukrainian air defense,but this cruise missile is a Ch-55/Ch-555 whos primary role is to carry a nuclear warhead,

    But yet went unnoticed by the poles and NATO, a potential nuclear weapon landed in a Nato country despite NATO ISR aircraft flying over ukraine since day one ,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    This just proves my very point Chinese whosperers is trying to argue with me about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Either he gets bunked off or he challenges Putin publicly,how many times is this now where he's publicly lambasted the military while begging for ammunition,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    I gave you the complete quotation of what you said and asked you a simple question. How do you get this 40,000 figure? Apologies if I did not get your exact statement completely correct in the first attempt but it was the number that I was finding to be the interesting part of what you were saying or to be more correct how you were so sure of this number as it was used in your post exactly as I quoted since then. No intention by me of putting words in your mouth. Your words were:

    "Not if they don't receive the 1 million shells that they were promised don't materialise ,were half way through the year and they received 40,000 ,"

    I also asked you if you could see the difference between what you said about the evacuation of Kherson and what is said in the article you linked to from sky news? I am still waiting for you to explain the difference between what you claim is to happen and the story in the article which is substantially different. So as to avoid confusion I am most interested in knowing how you decided:

    "Looks like Kherson is to be evacuated due to Russian artillery strikes , hopefully the Ukrainians can remove the majority of people,and anyone who wants to stay dragged kicking and screaming away ,"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    Fire need to be bigger, but good start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @macraignil I am still waiting for you to explain the difference between what you claim is to happen and the story in the article which is substantially different

    Substantial difference between them planning to evacuate Kherson and planning to evacuate Kherson due to Russian artillery,

    Are saying they are not planning to evacuate Kherson due to Russian artillery at all ,

    I don't think you have any real point here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    We are still waiting for some evidence of these gases - plural - other than CS, that you said Ukraine is using. Days it's been now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    The article says they had made an order for plans for an evacuation to be made and you said it was to happen. This is substantially diffferent. It is possible to make a plan and not actually carry it out. I don't know how to make this point any clearer to you.

    The Ukrainian armed forces are making efforts to destroy moskovyte artillery every day so I'm hoping large scale evacuation plans for civilians they might make never become necessary and it is the moskovytes who are the ones who see the need to evacuate from Ukraine.


    And the 40,000 artillery shell figure?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Yea I’m not saying it will happen , I was mainly commenting in relation to the other poster that was mentioning the advancement of the Information Age in Russia, I was merely saying that bar Moscow and st Petersburg that it’s not really the case, and that possibly they are the only 2 cities in Russia that anything could likely happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I said it 12months ago and I'm saying it again now. That prick of a lying Russian ambassador and his henchmen need to be thrown out of the country straight away!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @macraignil The article says they had made an order for plans for an evacuation to be made and you said it was to happen.

    Are they planning to evacuate Kherson yes ,

    No substantial difference there ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The kirch Bridge is busy tonight....


    But I'm sure it could be claimed it's really busy, it's just slow traffic and Bank holiday traffic.......

    But .




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    AT least call him into the DoFA yto get a right dressiing down. How dare he threaten us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Watch give it a month and it will be announced that they are expanding the number of diplomat's being stationed in the Russian embassy here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,011 ✭✭✭macraignil


    If you can't see the difference between making a plan and what you said:

    "Looks like Kherson is to be evacuated due to Russian artillery strikes , hopefully the Ukrainians can remove the majority of people,and anyone who wants to stay dragged kicking and screaming away ,"



    then I'm finished trying to explain it to you as you clearly have no interest in presenting information on russian actions in Ukraine accurately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Should be a few more sent packing until only only he is left on his own!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks like Russia is using missles recently produced in Ukraine despite various claims they either cant or are too corrupt to do it ,

    Either Russia Still has the production ability or they have found a way to source weapons from other sources.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Can you imagine,I'm here all alone and the Irish won't feed me ,and the lights are turned off ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well given that the powerful Silovicki and less powerful Oligarchs' reside in either Moscow or St. Petersburg, you are probably right, especially when the body bags start to mount up, but even more important for these people ( because they will avoid being drafted, because Putin needs their support) is the sight of their fortunes dwindling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    That Yevgheny Priogzhin is a horrible looking man. Evil has twisted his facial features. I'd compare him to Pluto from The Hills Have Eyes, but that would be an unflattering comparison to the actor and nice guy, Michael Berryman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,513 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao




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