The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 02:47AM

Ravens in real good shape at WR with Flowers added.

Xavi6 · 28-04-2023 02:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530430#Comment_120530430

Flowers was my hope and I would've been happy to trade up. Three good WRs gone now, maybe they'll just go defense.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 02:57AM

I thought the Vikings would have taken Levis there to sit behind Cousins for a year.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 03:12AM

The only corner ever taken in the first round by Belichick was Devin McCourty. So I'd expect Gonzalez to be very good. We usually find great ones as undrafted free agents like Malcolm Butler, JC Jackson and Jonathan Jones.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 03:13AM

How is Mayer not the first tight end off the board?

28-04-2023 03:18AM

All is forgiven, John.

I'm so happy and excited for the season to start I've put a Baroque and Rococo on us to win SB LVIII at a juicy 25/1.

#InJohnWeBIGTRUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Xavi6 · 28-04-2023 03:40AM

The Will Levis footage is getting grimmer each time

Realt Dearg Sec · 28-04-2023 03:56AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530467#Comment_120530467

I love the way they always try to make us feel bad for these guys who fall in the draft.

Yeah sorry man, one mildly bad day and after that all you'll have is your incredible talent, fame, dream job, beautiful girlfriend, millions of dollars and your youth. Tough break.

28-04-2023 04:05AM

As an eagles fan hard to not be over the moon with that

28-04-2023 04:50AM

So where's Levis gonna end up...

Raiders?

Titans?

Raiders arguably most in need but went with Wilson in Round 1 and can't begrudge them that, great talent. Titans addressed their biggest need so wasn't a shocker they didn't go for QB in 1st round.

I was thinking maybe Vikings might make a dive at one but they're without a pick.

Tampa?

I thought him putting mayonnaise in his coffee was just a meme because he's so white or so dull but I've just seen a video of him doing it. Dirty article.

28-04-2023 05:02AM

https://twitter.com/koestreicher34/status/1651790588860145667

I hope those are elastic bands he has in his knees.

Blut2 · 28-04-2023 09:40AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120530440#Comment_120530440

Both you (and Lamar apparently) were saying he was absolutely worth more guaranteed money than Watson, and that he should get in excess of Watson's $230mn guaranteed. He settled for $185mn guaranteed, after zero other teams in the league made him an offer.

That to me would seem like you were both proven rather wrong.

Christy42 · 28-04-2023 09:43AM

Cam Robinson getting suspended really forced the Jags hand but the draft seemed to fall kindly at least.

Gotta love the lack of knowledge from draft insiders. For the last week I have been hearing about Stroud falling and Levis rising on draft boards.

TheDoctor · 28-04-2023 10:40AM

What time does Round 2 start tonight? 12?

28-04-2023 10:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531457#Comment_120531457

Yup, then Rd3 is 5pm tomorrow.

Mr. Guappa · 28-04-2023 11:24AM

When you look at what it cost both teams to move up from #12, then the Cardinals fleeced the Texans and emerged with the best OT in the draft. Don't like that move from the Texans at all. Feels like Caserio taking a swing to keep himself in a job tbh.

Couple of really strange picks by the Lions. Kind of rooting for them to progress as a team, but feels like they messed up last night.

Really happy with the Patriots night. Gonzalez and another 4th (4 of them now) is a great evenings work. You'd have thought we'd be giving up a 4 to go up and get him.

phatkev · 28-04-2023 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531218#Comment_120531218

Ah most of these draft insiders only know was much as organisations are willing to tell them! Teams seem to be getting a lot better at holding their cards close

cosatron · 28-04-2023 01:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531673#Comment_120531673

Why are ye pissing off Rodgers already with best wide receiver and tight end on the board and ye draft a olb. GM Rodgers will not be happy.

Lionbacker · 28-04-2023 01:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531650#Comment_120531650

With regards to the Lions, after listeneing to GM Brad Holmes press conference, I'm convinced they were gonna take Witherspoon with the 6th pick till Seattle unexpectedly went that way. But yeah, strange picks they ended pivoting to after trading down, but Brad seems really happy with their haul so far. Got three 2nd round picks tonight so looking forward to seeing who they choose.

I actually don't think they're looking at the draft for much immeadite contributors like in previous years, after fixing their biggest weakness that was the secondary during free agency. So I don't think it a major disaster that some a making it out to be. I beleive the draft picks are mainly looking a few years down the line with a vision for the future at each position.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 03:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531673#Comment_120531673

Thing is the scouts, for the most part, aren't much better.

Like I'm no expert but I've called some which seemed pretty clear to me over the years and they weren't picked in the first round.

For instance at QB the first thing I look at is what a QB does under pressure. If a guy is holding onto the ball running backwards regularly I'll draw a line through him. If he's looking to throw it away and going down taking the sack if it's not on that's a real good sign I think. After you see all that then you look at awareness, check down speed and obviously accuracy, arm strength, throwing motion and footwork.

For me though if you are the type who panics under pressure or want to be a hero on every play you have no hope of making it in the NFL.

I love receivers who move around to make it easier for the QB to complete the pass but a lot of scouts put speed first ahead of hands and iq. Justin Jefferson had incredible hands and that ability to move around and make it easier for his QB to complete a pass. He was the fourth receiver taken behind Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I loved Lamb too and again his movement was incredible but I had him and Jefferson as the top two in that draft class.

When you look at all the top receivers in the NFL and I'm talking Jefferson, Kupp, Hopkins, Adams, Hill, Chase and AJ Brown, they all have that ability to make it easier for the QB.

Look at first round picks who haven't been as good like Cooks, Agholor, Dorset and Watkins and they don't have that. There's plenty of total busts as well but I'm sticking with players who are still playing.

Foxtrol · 28-04-2023 04:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531209#Comment_120531209

You're claiming Lamar to be wrong and have based you continuous gripes about him over the last few months on completely unsubstantiated rumours about what his demands were.

My argument wasn't that he was 'absolutely worth' more guaranteed money than Watson, it was that Lamar had a valid argument to make if he was trying to do that (again, completely unsubstantiated).

Similarly, last week my point was that Lamar had a valid argument to make that his contract should be better than what Hurts received.

Lamar got the best QB deal in per year value and guarantees for a player not moving teams. If that is being 'proven rather wrong', more players should try it.

Foxtrol · 28-04-2023 04:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120531673#Comment_120531673

There are always smokescreens but this year it made even more sense to do it given quality not being good this year.

There was basically no top tier talent that didn't have some kind of negative.

So many teams could see players different ways so it made sense to leak as most things were believable.

Itssoeasy · 28-04-2023 04:23PM

good night for the eagles last night from everything I’ve seen.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 05:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120532933#Comment_120532933

Also you just never use the Browns as a comparison. They have some of the worst contracts in the NFL with Watson, Amari Cooper and Denzel Ward.

They overpay a lot.

phatkev · 28-04-2023 05:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120532088#Comment_120532088

Jets have historically been nearly as bad as Green Bay for not going offense in the 1st round, especially if you ignore the multiple **** QBs they've taken high😅 The new front office have changed it up a bit, the last 3 years they've ended up with at least one offensive in the 1st

Foxtrol · 28-04-2023 07:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120532973#Comment_120532973

Definitely positive, they basically took the top players on the draft analysts boards when their picks came, two guys who 'fell'.

Kind of similar to last year where their picks were hailed after the first two nights of the draft but then all ended up all being rotation guys or backups.

Not sure if they're immediately that much better than this time yesterday, as they were additions in spots where they were already strong, but the guys they picked could end up being great long term.

eagle eye · 28-04-2023 10:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120533619#Comment_120533619

Sauce wasn't a rotational player, neither was Garrett Wilson.

Foxtrol · 29-04-2023 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120534378#Comment_120534378

Looks like you've jumped so quickly to disagree with me that you didn't even read the previous post and see that Itssoeasy was talking specifically about the Eagles, nothing to do with the Jets.

Itssoeasy · 29-04-2023 06:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120536470#Comment_120536470

Well being an eagles fan it’s logical I would comment on the eagles draft picks.

eagle eye · 29-04-2023 08:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120536470#Comment_120536470

I don't know how I made that mistake. ☺️ My apologies.

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