Media silence over Niall Collins story

Would you care to provide a legal definition of "pecuniary or beneficial interest"?

Regards...jmcc

Yes quote me then bang on about something I never said. Did I say beneficial interest or pecuniary interest?

No. I did say he had an interest in the land, which he did. That is without doubt.

Complete and obvious conflict of interests which is what I said when this story first broke.

The OP I replied to earlier claimed he had no interest, not no beneficial interest.

Literally no interest, as in the English definition of it, which is what I replied to.

All of a sudden everyone's a fcuking solicitor.

If Paul Murphy bid the highest price he would now own it. Can't see the issue here.

Yeah, maybe they're Russians

I'm going to take it at face value, as posted here, that this was legal.

Still doesn't make his behaviour anywhere near acceptable.

In my work I get very basic mandatory training on business ethics and corruption. It doesn't really relate to my job and I barely pay attention.

Even from that I know that were I to act similarly to how Collins did here I'd be in trouble.

Seems FFG don't have similar policies or apply them, and they're not willing legislate to ensure even these basic standards are applicable to local government.

Once again - here is the definition under Australian law - there's no definition under Irish law.

"pecuniary interest" is an interest that a person has in a matter because of a reasonable likelihood or expectation of appreciable financial gain or loss to the person or another person with whom the person is associated as provided in section 183.

(2) A person does not have a pecuniary interest in a matter if the interest is so remote or insignificant that it could not reasonably be regarded as likely to influence any decision the person might make in relation to the matter.

If Niall Collin's wife expressed interest in the council's land then it could not reasonably be concluded that his interest in the land is so remote or insignificant as to not influence his decision to vote in favour of the sale of the land.

Politicians have the game sown up. The laws they enact are suited to suit them and the already established moneyed class that they came from.

Irish people are on some sort of assumption that the politicians they elect are some sort of stupid, thick necked, gom. This assumption has been fed for the last 40 years by various outlets of the media, Halls Pictorial, Scrap Saturday, Mario Rosenstock, Oliver Callan. Ordinary people assume Irish politicians/High ranked civil servants are inherently stupid due to this state sanctioned noise.

The reality is this, every single Irish politician is the most devious and Machiavellian of them all. Every single one of them. They have no respect for you. They care not a single iota for you. They are out for themselves. And they do it spectacularly.

He just explained why.

Humour me

Read his post. Also read mine where I explain what “pecuniary or other beneficial interest” means. If he doesn’t have an “interest” (in law), how can he have a conflict of interest? We have been over this point many times.

I don’t like Niall Collins. I think he is a sleeveen and I would never vote for him. However, he did not break any law and (if you ask me) that is the real scandal.

It only had a market price because her husband had a say in creating that market.

It was a conflict of interests imo but we'll agree to disagree.

Paul Murphy was not in the decision making process on the property.

Regards...jmcc

He didnt vote to sell the land though. He voted to agreee that a proposal to sell the land would move to the next stage.