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Northern Ireland fees apply from April 2023 for eCars

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  • 15-03-2023 8:32am
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭


    Thanks to ESB for meeting with us in Belfast this evening.


    Pay to charge confirmed as being turned on in Northern Ireland next month (April 2023). ESB card holders will receive a letter next week with the details.

    Same overstay rules as ROI

    Up to now all esb ecars chargers were free to use with no overstay fees.

    From NIEVOA



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    I thought they had to be able to take credit cards at the charge point .. Or maybe they can now ?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-new-rapid-chargepoints-should-offer-card-payment-by-2020



  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭the perfect ten


    Good news in my opinion. People who live near public chargers will now use their home chargers more frequently rather than driving to a nearby ESB charger.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,443 ✭✭✭eagerv


    True, should be much easier for a run to Belfast, or anywhere up North.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭loopymum


    Great news.

    Anything that is free seems to get hogged all the time



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Great news



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Will be possible to drive to North again now, yay.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Only for new chargers, existing ones seem to be exempt

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Brilliant news...

    NI is now a slightly* more viable destination now for EV drivers.

    *Its still ESB eCars so lets not get carried away



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Email just sent with pricing etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭zg3409


    ESB introduces pay for use in Northern Ireland to support EV network expansion

     

    • Pay for use to be introduced for the ESB public EV charging network in Northern Ireland from 26th April 2023 
    • Drivers based in Northern Ireland who have previously not signed up can do so by clicking here.
    • Existing drivers who registered with a UK address will have their accounts converted from euro to sterling on 20th April 2023  
    • Charge seamlessly across the island of Ireland using an ESB charge point access card or the ecar connect mobile app, and pay via a single account  
    • Conveniently manage and track your EV charging from your ESB account (Driver website Portal or ecar connect app) 
    • ESB is undertaking necessary EV network upgrade work in Northern Ireland as part of a £10m investment programme 

     

    21st March

     

    Dear EV Driver, 

     

    Together with every EV driver, ESB is powering Northern Ireland towards a cleaner, net zero future. To support more EVs on our roads, we’re investing in and making necessary upgrades to the ESB public charging network across Northern Ireland. As part of this process, we’re introducing pay for use from 26th April 2023.

     

    Two price plans 

     

    There will be two price plans available - Pay As You Go and Membership, the latter designed for drivers who typically use the network more than five times per month.

     

    What are the prices (£)? 

     

     

    PAYG  

    Membership 

    Fast Charging <22kW, £/kWh 

    49p

    46.2p

    Rapid Charging >22 - 100kW, £/kWh

    57.7p 

    54.3p

    High Power >= 150kW £/kWh  

    67p

    63.1p

    Monthly Subscription

    None 

    £4.99

    Charge Point Access Card

    Free if you top up by £20 upon sign up

    £9.20 for additional card

    Initial card is Free

    £9.20 for additional cards 

     

     

    A nominal connection fee of 25p will also be applied for all charging transactions. For instance, if a customer charges up by £10 worth of electricity, the bill will come to £10.25. Local parking fees may also apply. Please refer to local signage at each charger for parking information.

      

    To reduce queuing and to ensure chargers are more readily available for all users, an overstay fee of £8 will apply for charging sessions longer than 45 minutes when using rapid (including AC43 connectors) or high power chargers. The overstay fee will also apply for charging sessions longer than 10 hours on 22kW fast chargers and 22kW sockets on rapid chargers.

     

    Fleet plans will be launched for Northern Ireland fleet customers in the coming months and contactless payment will be made available on all new rapid and high power chargers (>=150kW). A 1p/kWh supplement will apply to all contactless transactions when it is rolled out.

     

    Further communication will be issued in advance of these plans. 

     

    Update on network improvements 

    ESB operates the largest EV charging network on the island of Ireland consisting of more than 1,350 charge points.  In 2021, ESB replaced 30 fast chargers (22kW) and five rapid chargers (50kW) in Northern Ireland and we are commencing the next phase of the upgrade programme.

     

    This work is part of a £10 million investment, £3.27million of which is from the Levelling Up Fund and will: 

    • Replace all existing fast (22kW) and rapid (50kW) EV chargers across Northern Ireland. The legacy infrastructure will be replaced with the fastest, most reliable and advanced technology available.  
    • Double the existing number of rapid chargers and increase the speed of these chargers two-fold from 50kW to 100kW.  
    • See the introduction of high power (200kW) charging through the delivery of five high power charging (200kW) hubs in strategic locations. These high-power charging hubs can charge multiple vehicles simultaneously and can provide an EV with 60 miles of range in as little as six minutes. 

     

    Do drivers need to do anything? 

     

    If you are an existing driver and have already signed up to use the public charging network with an address in the UK, your account will be updated allowing for all charging activities to be billed in sterling from 20th April. You do not need to do anything.

     

    As the network has been free to use, there are a small number of charge point access cards in circulation which are not linked to a customer account with credit or debit card details. If you are currently using an ESB charge point access card not linked to an account, we recommend you sign up by visiting www.esb.ie/ecars/NI.  You can then link your current charge point access card to your new account. If you are unsure, please contact us on the details below and we will be happy to assist you.

     

    If you are an existing customer registered in Ireland and plan to travel to Northern Ireland, your charging in Northern Ireland will be billed in euro. Please refer to the charge point map or the ecar connect app to get specific euro pricing for chargers in Northern Ireland.

    If you are an existing customer registered in Northern Ireland and plan to travel to Ireland, your charging in Ireland will be billed in sterling. Please refer to the charge point map or the ecar connect app to get specific sterling pricing for chargers in Ireland.

     

    Terms and Conditions have been updated for all customers from today 21st March and are available to review here and here. We hereby give 30 days’ notice of these changes to our terms and conditions.

     

    Contact Us 

    If you have any questions, we are here to help 24/7 via phone or you can contact us via email: 

    E: ecars@esb.ie 

    T: 0044 345 601 8303 / 00353 1 258 3799 

     



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  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭eltoastero


    Nothing I hate more than a connection fee, I feel like there's an incentive there for the charger to "randomly" disconnect so you've to start again.

    These prices should free the chargers up rightly (locals, who I know, camping at them because free was cheaper than their home rate).



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭rocketspocket


    There are no high speed chargers in the north so the max charge you can get in 1 charging session is 37.5KW - (50/60)*45 which will cost about 22GBP..



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,180 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Looks like I'm the only person not happy to see this.

    I am in and out of Ni frequently, and loved the fact that I could charge for free. And I was usually always able to find a charger free in Derry, didn't find hogging of them an issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,613 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Signs being put up



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    assume easygo will work with these ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭ELM327




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    So yes does work ? Its once in a blue moon so dont care



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭rocketspocket


    @Black_Knight you any early stats on the usage pattern changes in the north now that payment has been introduced?



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭eltoastero


    I'm going up North tonight, I fully expect that the 50kW charger in my home town will be available to use (which it rarely was when it cost nothing to use).

    Makes for interesting charging choices now: €0.56c / kWh at the ESB unit (50kW), or €0.75c/kWh at the "180kW" applegreen (Castlebellingham) or take it handy and hit the IONITY (City North) on the way back at €0.71c/kWh



  • Moderators Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    No full day to compare against, but Sprucefield is regularly a high usage unit. Yesterday it was in use for almost 18 hours of the day, Monday was 17 hours. So far today it's been in use 7 hours.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,998 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Is the Maxol station in Kinnegar of any use? I used it around Christmas and while it's a bit off the beaten track, it was very handy having 6 changers to choose from

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭rocketspocket


    a lot of people deferring back to their home charger no doubt and no plugging in while shopping & anecdotally, i've been checking Sprucefield since 1.30pm today and looks to have been used by 3 customers and with periods of 'free' which is never the case around this time of day.. the Boucher road one seems to be getting more usage from what i've seen



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭rocketspocket


    that place was a nightmare as it took me about 10minutes to actually get the charge to start as the process was so convoluted. lot to be said to 'tap & charge' but to be fair, quicker next time now that i know how it all hangs together..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭THE ALM


    Hopefully we will see a lot of these 22kW upgraded as there is a severe lack of high powered charges around the north coast especially, a good few of these have been powered off for a while so would like to think it is in anticipation of being changed.

    Longer term I will probably get a charger installed at the mothers property so will be looking out for cheap options.

    Have noticed an increased use of the chargers in the last 6 months. I would have been fairly confident of rocking up at a charger and it being available, not anymore.



  • Moderators Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    I update my graphs with Monday usage (get to see a typical week rather than busy weekends, and spikes in bank holidays too), so it'll be Tuesday before https://ecars-stats.com/graphs.html is updated with the after affects.



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭rocketspocket


    Someone has been connected to the 50KW charger at sprucefield for an hour & 10 minutes - this will mean they'll get a 8GBP overstay charge. Wonder how many people know this is also happening (the app doesn't seem to tell you about overstay fees)



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,543 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    I think anyone who welcomes these charges enjoys being rode with no lube financially. As a previous poster said, I also have seen no problems with hogging, even near the cities there. But still, why waste another opportunity to rip motorists off



  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭eltoastero


    Being asked to paying for a fuel...... hardly a rip off. I can't think of a time when petrol or diesel was just given away.

    Plenty (more) posters on this thread have commented on chargers being hogged (I know people at home who routinely used the free charger at the shop rather than the charger at home, I fully expect when I see them tonight that their usage plans will have changed drastically).



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,543 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    It was subsidised as an incentive to buy the well-expensive electric car in the first place. The rates for charging a car on public network (currently at the same overall price as petrol) are indeed, a rip off. Yes you can charge at home but guess what the charger costs crazy money negativing your savings for quite sometime. Even with the (soon to be removed) grant, another ripoff.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The problem is though when nice things are free, a small selection of users abuse that free thing and ruin it for everyone else…

    As an EV driver I would barely consider ever going to NI, as I knew the charging situation was an utter scut show…. Now I’d feel a little bit more confident that I’d actually be able to find a charger that’s not blocked by a car that’s been plugged in all day….



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