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Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting

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    #17552
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,710 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    After reading everything I'm even more convinced Gerry never ordered the Regency hit, listening to audio transcripts from the wire taps he wanted nothing to do with this until they killed Eddie. The whole thing was absolute amateur hour and that doesn't sound like GH. Everything I have ever read about him is he's smart and that is justified that he has evaded the law for so long. Listen to the recordings, a private conversation in a vehicle and he never admitted or bragged about the hit. Why? because he had nothing to do with it.

    Is he a violent dangerous criminal? Absolutely. But this case was a total stitch up, he handled the weapons after but he went to north to try get the IRA to mediate peace between the gangs. GH was retired, he's an armed robber not a drug dealer.



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    #17553
    Littleredcar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Littleredcar


    Who are flashys brothers are they all in crime or have some of them lived straight



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    #17554
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Gerry is forging a new career for himself.

    image.png




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    #17555
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120491864#Comment_120491864

    Incorrect on the EAW. A state will not extradite under an EAW if the law used by the requesting state does not have an equivalent one on the books in the extraditing state. An article I read the other day indicated Spain apparently lacks directing organised crime legislation in the same manner we have in Ireland.

    The equivalency test was one of the reasons the Irish Supreme Court refused to extradite Ian Bailey to France. There was a hitch with the law referenced by the French in the EAW and the SC decided it was incongruent with Irish law.

    With the original EAW they may have had to go with murder as a fail-safe way to get him out of Spain.



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    #17556
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,710 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120492486#Comment_120492486

    My favourite one is this

    20230417_175942.jpg




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    #17557
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    How come he didn't have any relative or friend to pick him up from the court? Bit odd he was wondering around looking for a taxi.



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    #17558
    Thorsbeard1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Thorsbeard1982


    Probably thought he was going down....or didn't want their or their vehicle pictured.



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    #17559
    Man Vs ManUre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Is there any chance the fella dress in women’s clothes running from the regent was Pansy Bliss??



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    #17560
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,543 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    For anyone who is threadbanned do not assume it's lifted because the case is over. You need to get a mod to lift it and that will usually require assurances that similar issues to those that resulted in the threadban (generally a commitment not to discuss anything before the courts again - any court case not just this trial) will not arise again



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    #17561
    Updaparish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Updaparish


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120492306#Comment_120492306
    Screenshot_20230418_175254.jpg

    Last one I promise..



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    #17562
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why dont they use polygraphs in ireland?



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    #17563
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,543 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493268#Comment_120493268

    "In a majority of European jurisdictions, polygraphs are generally considered to be unreliable for gathering evidence, and are usually not used by local law enforcement agencies. Polygraph testing is widely seen in Europe to violate the right to remain silent.[68]: 62ff "

    from

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph

    They may use them in the States but they are not used in many other jurisdictions



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    #17564
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120490554#Comment_120490554

    Jonathon Dowdalls solicitor.



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    #17565
    batman75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭batman75


    Haven't followed the ins and outs of this. Is it fair to say that the state's case rested on the evidence of Jonathan Dowdall. The judges comments are fairly scathing about Dowdall. Leaves you wondering who gave the go ahead for Dowdall to be a pillar of the state's case?



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    #17566
    Larsso30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493268#Comment_120493268

    Because they are highly flawed and no court should be using them



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    #17567
    evolvingtipperary101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    https://twitter.com/Gmck__7_3/status/1648234568678359041?s=20


    ...



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    #17568
    evolvingtipperary101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Will the whole Cox thing be opened up now? Will we get answers?

    Will Hutch not want Dowdall wiped?



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    #17569
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    It's funny everyone saying Hutch will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

    He wasn't looking over his shoulder whilst in Spain, in a place where KOCG/BOCG members were known to frequent the odd time. Nevermind the area, why would he be anywhere near Spain with a '1 mill hit on his head' in the first place. Where you have any amount of Irish, English, Rooskis etc happy to get a piece of the 1mill.

    AFAIK he has property in Turkey and the US?

    Which Would make you think he made a deal or the K/Bs were happy enough he wasn't directly involved with the Regency.

    Remember the graffiti, 'Patsy dies, fued ends'.



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    #17570
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120492862#Comment_120492862

    My guess is that any one that picked him up would have target on their back.

    Enough of that. Get a taxi.



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    #17571
    Nothing surprises me now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭Nothing surprises me now


    IMG-20230418-WA0004.jpg

    ....



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    #17572
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493592#Comment_120493592

    As far as I know the arrest warrant for Gerard was before Dowdall agreed to go on the dock for witness protection. They had the audio of the 10 hour journey in the Dowdall land cruser going up north twice.

    When Dowdall found out about the recording he went state witness.

    So no they didn't depend on it but having him in the dock did more harm than good in trying to convict Gerard IMO.



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    #17573
    passatman86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭passatman86


    Was the chap walking with the monk saying "let the man grieve"



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    #17574
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493639#Comment_120493639

    Hutch might just by him a pint he clear lies on the stand got both of the off. Hutch is a free man and found innocent of murder and Dowdall had his murder charge dropped and his whole family get to start again in a new country under new identities.

    Put a tinfoil hat on and you might think this was Hutch and Dowdall’s plan from the very start.



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    #17575
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493639#Comment_120493639

    I'm sure you mean Colm Fox. That will probably never be answered.

    I don't see why Gerard Hutch would care about Dowdall now as he is setup and can live his life unlike Dowdall.



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    #17576
    LostWeekend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭LostWeekend


    In that prime time video of the arrest shown tonight the monk seemed calm enough when he was picked up in Spain.

    Telling the Irish cop he must be roasting wearing his garda jacket lol



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    #17577
    Timmyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Timmyr


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493758#Comment_120493758

    Probably means Mel Cox, although I dont see how that has anything to do with this case



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    #17578
    ParkRunner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493766#Comment_120493766

    I thought the joke was going to be “I have a jacket like that” :-)



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    #17579
    evolvingtipperary101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493758#Comment_120493758

    Dowdall tried to sink him for murder.

    I can't help thinking that the whole approach to the case, in particular, the witness the case was built around was so bad that it was at the very least something to take away attention from Fox and what was going on there (Yeah sorry got mixed up with Mel Cox for a sec). It's amazing how that has been swept away.



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    #17580
    Updaparish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Updaparish


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120493729#Comment_120493729

    Yeah he did lol. Hope he doesn't get taken out over this by that other crowd.. Such an easy target now poor chap



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    #17581
    Noseygit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Noseygit


    He wasn't in possession of any arms,Patsy on the other hand....


    Please pardon the pun



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