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General Premier League Thread 2022-23 - mod note in OP 12/03/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,036 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    More Petrostate domination it is.

    Their treble is on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭mobydopy


    With the current form City are in, they'll wipe the floor with Arsenal at the Etihad.

    Looks like the pressure has got to those Arsenal players during this crucial run-in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    This Arsenal team has a bit of fragility where they if concede a goal they'll collapse.

    Saka seems to been out of form for awhile too, I found he was awful today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,921 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    They're not necessarily throwing it away.

    They're finding out that draws don't cut it in a run-in in this era. When the club was last in a title winning position that would be considered an ok point. That's not a reality when you're fighting Pep's City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ah give over they have wiped the floor with most teams so far this season.


    Injuries and inexperience has caught up.


    Nonsense post about a team who has led the league all season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,328 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The inevitability of this run in is depressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,876 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Arteta has a lot of questions to answer. The snide tactics he is employing has cost Arsenal 4 points in the last 2 games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Arsenal don't have the experience in their ranks to see this over the finish line. Accusations of bottling it are a bit harsh when really they've played well above their level for most of the season. This is just reality kicking in.

    Unfortunately, I think this was a moon shot opportunity for them. I don't expect them to be challenging again next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,952 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    They've thrown away four points from the last two games where they were winning 2-0. If they hadn't done that they'd still be 8 points up with 7 games to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Loosing Saliba was massive.


    Rob Holding is a championship player.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,036 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    No bottling.

    95 point season if they win the last seven.

    Just shows the near perfection needed to compete with City's millions.

    Maybe next year no one will push them and the league will be over by February



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,882 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Honestly, anyone who calls the Arsenal and Liverpool teams bottlers is either silly or being intentional silly.


    These have put together absolutely fantastic teams that have been worthy of winning any title, but how are you supposed to compete with a team that barely ever enters any remote period of transition when they can go out in the summer and spend huge money on the best around in whatever their current position of need is.


    Any normal team is always going to drop points somewhere, and if that’s considered bottling then eh fair enough. Dropping 19 points in 31 games doesn’t fit that criteria for me though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Arsenal feeling the pressure.

    2 games in a row now they’ve gone ahead, changed tactics to kill opposition momentum and have paid for it. Why they feel the need to do anything except keep imposing their game on the opposition now is beyond me. Big ask for them to win the title now, probably can’t afford any more mistakes.

    I wouldn’t call them bottlers, just another team that’s put a valiant effort in against limitless resources.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,197 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    But that's all they have really missing. Tierney was a starter last year and is as good as Zinchenko I think.

    Injuries etc are part and parcel to the game. Arsenal are no different and in the run in to the end of the league, they have the vast amount of players available to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,952 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Of they win the next 7 games then they win the league because that'll mean they've beaten City in the Eithad.

    I hope they can pull it off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Well no they were missing two of their eleven who have started all season.

    But I agree about injuries happen so it’s no different.


    That’s not to say they don’t make the difference on games.


    City just have a ridiculous bench to call on when they get an injury, other teams don’t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,921 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    They have.

    But this is the only era where that's ever been considered bottling, because City's oil machine under Pep is a ludicrous standard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,858 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Does some fucker have a whistle?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,033 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    If that's not a penalty against Maguire, how come every other ball to arm is?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I think it’s fair to challange the “arsenal are bottlers” narrative.

    That said, I was saying it a few months ago, that a two horse league is usually won in April/May when the pressure really starts to mount. This is when winning ugly or when you are playing poorly matters.

    Arsenal have had a fairly handy run of games with no midweek ones since mid March so they can’t blame fatigue. It’s the mental strength that catches up to non league winning teams at this stage. Games they were cruising in Jan/Feb are harder as the pressure mounts.

    This is also why it’s unfair that city can just have a conveyor belt of experienced quality cause like you said they don’t need transition periods. Look at every other club in the league and it has odd seasons and needs to replace players. City is full of league winning players , no team can compete with that.

    The league is becoming like Germany or France with no meaningful title race. It needed 2-3 teams to step up to really put some pressure on city. Many people like myself don’t rate what Pep is doing and this is why. He might aswell take over PSG and celebrate the league titles there as if its some achievement. Any decent manager would win most leagues with this city squad.

    Regardless, Arteta has done a far better job than Pep this season. To do so in the manner he has done he has already proven he can build a strong team without a kings ransom, peps never done that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Bluebb993


    How wasn't that a penalty against Maguire?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,882 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I dunno if it’s the pressure mounting, or not just more that you have Holding as your 3rd choice CB (first deputy).


    There isn’t really a City player they can lose where they don’t have someone who can come in, who doesn’t get into any team outside the big 6.


    The problem isn’t Arsenal/Liverpool/whoever is next to put up a valiant change. This is the situation we face until United’s Qatar money comes in or we really see Newcastle’s Saudi money to take effect. It’s a horrible way for football to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    United have been f**ked over by enough sh*t reffing and inconsistent VAR like everybody else this season, I wouldn’t make too much out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,882 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    It was one I also expected to see given based on previous incidents, but it seems like I learn something new about the handball rule almost every time there’s an incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭KH25


    Because the refs are horrendously inconsistent. I was expecting it to be given.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,477 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Arsenal can always be relied upon to implode at crucial times in a season. I think Manchester City are just a far superior team and should win the title in a canter now. Aspiring champions simply cannot drop points against the likes of West Ham.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭It is a Dunne Deal


    Man Utd still getting every decision possible Maguire with the most obvious handball you could ever see not given absolutely scandalous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭It is a Dunne Deal


    IMG-20230416-WA0005.jpg

    Not a penalty apparently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,921 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Until my dying day I'll insist that Harry Maguire hoodwinked everyone into making it at elite football.

    There has never been anything about him that is good enough.

    At Hull, Leicester or Utd.

    Everyone sold a complete pony.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,036 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    No? Who can aspiring champions drop points to then?



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