And the winner of dreamer of the year is... Part 2!

Are garages sticking badges on bog standard cars now so?......

The mileage is high enough as well.

Edition R was just a spec level for the irish market between comfort and highline.

Of course it is. It is just a spec level specific to the irish market.

Christ! Mental money.

If he gets his asking price, I'll eat a pair of underpants I've worn for a week.

I remember back in the day the bug eye integras were much cheaper than the jap imports

The bodywork on that integra looks pretty ropey to say the least

Wouldnt be as confident on the JDM honda scene, there are a lot of dreamers out there who will be holding onto their future JDM classic at the dreamer prices they think they will get for them. People are holding these cars speculatively thinking they are major assets but people just aren't shelling out big money for them. At the end of the day anything without a TypeR badge was an average car back in the day let alone now. And im biased, i love Hondas and have owned most of the best that were made.

The B16A/B is indeed a fantastic engine, but as a package the eg/ek civics were average cars and were not thought highly of in their time. There is nothing to justify why any of these cars would cost more than 3-4k now. A second hand decent B16A engine can be gotten for under 2k in the UK. People are delusional if they think they are buying an investment if they spend 5 figures on a car like this and think it will appreciate in value. Ive owned over my younger years nearly every variety of fast honda bar the NSX so I'm coming from a position of authority here. The only two ive kept for a decent period was my delsol and DC5.

There is a world of difference unusual and highly desirable jap cars commanding a premium (i get the DC2 as a collectors model for example), stuff like R32/33 skylines, supras, GTOs etc.

Who said anything about throwing a b16 into a uk car and that it would make it the same as a JDM version?

You need to take the blinkers off, most of those hondas from that era are very average in the grand scheme of things and barely deserve a backwards glance, let alone spending north of 10k on them. They were never renowned for their handling and theyre not considered fast now either. Ill reiterate, outside of the TypeRs, and only a select few, will ever command a premium long term. The comment about locking them up in a shed is nonsense because all they will do there is gather rust if you are waiting for them to appreciate as an ongoing asset. Theyre just not good cars and wont command that level of desirability.

Of all the jap hondas ive had its only the delsol SiR i would have back and thats because it was my first nippy car as a young fella. My mk2 crx, eg2, dc2, dc5, s2k...no thanks.

They won't necessarily"always go up in value" though. I think we are near peak for the bog standard ones. They're a bubble at the moment which will deflate.

Thing about classics, and I've had a few, is that they don't make you much money after you factor in the costs. I had a 500sl I bought for 7.5k and sold for 17.5k as I never really loved it. I still reckon I only broke even on it having driven only 3 or 4 thousand miles in it.

I broke even on a 129, and lost money on a 911.

I currently have an absolutely beautiful XJS 3.6 in midnight blue, which is probably the most reliable car I've ever owned and I'll keep, but whilst they look to be flying up in value, in reality they aren't.

Strange one here