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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,616 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    De Santis is resembling a fascist.

    No way will independents vote for him.

    Generation Z will be a threat to any republican running. They seem invigorated.

    And millennials aren’t flipping red either.

    Saying that, Biden is too old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Indeed. I feel thar damn near any Dem candidate could have beaten Trump last time. 2020 was very much a referendum against Trump rather than in favour of Biden. Biden wasn’t Trump, and I feel that was the main thing.

    They could however really do with a new energetic candidate. I doubt anyone would blame Biden retiring at this stage in favour of another candidate. I was hopeful that Harris might have been that, but I at the moment I can’t see that working. Biden could still beat Trump in a rematch I feel, but a more “exciting” candidate would make it a sure thing.

    The while GenZ and Millennial angle is key too. I feel that overturning Roe v Wade damaged the GOP’s chances in the midterms and their attempts to make abortion drugs illegal / inaccessible is going to do the same damage in the eyes of a whole generation of people who suddenly see their reproductive rights stifled by the red candidates. This will hurt Trump’s chances in 2024 especially if they keep this up. If they had any intelligence the GOP should have just threatened to do these things indefinitely without actually doing it, but now they’ve handed the Dems a mandate to reverse what they’ve been up to.

    What is more baffling is that it’s clear that many GOP people don’t really feel all that opposed to abortion options, since a good few have been reported either paying for them, or in some cases getting them themselves. I know it’s an play designed to get hard-core Evangelical voters on-side, and then again within those communities you’ll get plenty of messing about under the veneer of their beliefs. Thus, the GOP continues to damage their chances with several generations of voters, all for banning a reproductive right that they or much of their target audience don’t really mind people having. It’s about as mindless as them still allowing Trump to railroad their party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    "I know it’s an play designed to get hard-core Evangelical voters on-side, and then again within those communities you’ll get plenty of messing about under the veneer of their beliefs"

    Don't underestimate the RCC foot soldiers in this, anti-women policies work really well with them. Same policies are playing really well in a growing demographic for the GQP, Hispanic voters who allow themselves to be dictated to by the RCC. I think it's RCC that actually makes a difference for GQP politicians at the polls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,306 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I disagree and think that Biden was perfect for 2020.

    Trump still polled well but Biden was the antithesis of trumpism. He represented stability, scandal free, political norms and competency. He was well known and had 8 successful years as VP.

    Running an unknown dem against trump would have been a disaster.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,306 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Some Machiavellian level sh1t, if true!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Who cares what Bill Barr says anymore? He did his duty by his Federalist Society masters, no doubt has some good gigs not doing a lot of anything for the future.


    TFG had several AG's, this is the only one we hear from. Go away Barr you John Goodman look-alike. Goodman would've done a better job, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,306 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Trump's transformation into grandpa Simpson is complete....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien



    Happy Easter to all!

    (Except the people I don't like- so presidential 🤣)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Is he just going to go ALL CAPS for every “truth” he posts from now on? Will make it hard to know when he’s intending to internet shout when he’s doing it for EVERY word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Plenty of evangelical and others fit that bill regarding women, given only 20% of the population who identify Christian are Catholic.

    The evangelicals and their type of followers as they see Catholicism as a tool of Satan. They don't have any love for those the Jewish faith either but support Israel as they see it as a way to bring about the end of days.

    Like everyone supporting trump its a mishmash of c*ntism, stupidity and mental health issues. Hence why a few of them in countries out side of the U.S. are on the watch lists of local police forces.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    To be fair, most of the trumpers on here argument is that the democracts are absolute geniuses and way smarter than the GOP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    And a good glimpse for the GOP over why they lost the last 3 election cycles, as Republicans cross the aisle to agree with AOC on a Republican judge’s new injunction against mifepristone just… 2 short decades after it received full FDA approval:

    ”This is an issue that Republicans have largely been on the wrong side of. We have, over the last nine months, not shown compassion towards women and this is one of those issues that I’ve tried to lead on as someone who’s pro-life and just have some common sense.

    “In the state of South Carolina just a few weeks ago, we had some folks in the state legislature that essentially wanted to execute women who had abortions. So we’ve got some extreme views on this issue, but 90% is somewhere in the middle and I think that that 90% would be OK with listening to the FDA rather than a judge who used an old law that was determined unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. I think the vast, vast majority of Americans would support that decision.”

    You can see why if a Republican can cross the aisle and go on CNN to agree with AOC, that a slew of Republican voting women similarly have made a series of different choices at the private ballot boxes.

    In the 2nd paragraph she refers to a bill lawmakers introduced in SC to impose the death penalty on women getting abortions. Very pro life stuff, much principle, definitely not confusing voters about their core values.

    Facing fierce backlash the statehouse swears it will never become law but that didn’t stop them from terrorizing the public with their bullshit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Wait

    Wait

    Let's get back to the UFC thing for a second

    None of you told me this guy LOST the fight?

    Trump just got endorsed by a loser. It's perfectly poetic. 🤣

    'The greatest UFC fighter in the history of the world' having just lost to y'know, just some nobody who won a rigged fight, then went to usher the crowd into a Let's Go Brandon chant. It was unclear if, like Biden, they were cheering on the election victory of Brandon Johnson this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,121 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    No this is what Democrats are doing as they know Biden won't beat Ron DeSantis if he is the wins the nomination. They really want Trump to run and these doomed cases in New York will help him win the nomination.

    It's a shame really as DeSantis would be a great Nominee and President.

    Also If Trump hadn't gone down the childish route of slagging him off it could have been Trump/DeSantis ticket.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    As I said, a loser who just retired calling out a loser who should



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Also If Trump hadn't gone down the childish route of slagging him off it could have been Trump/DeSantis ticket.

    Well now Trump doing things that are unforced errors are why we are here.

    Had he never had a conversation with his conspirators to stiff payment of Stormy Daniels after the election, Bragg would almost surely have no case.

    But Trump can't help but put his foot in his mouth constantly, whether its slagging off marginally adequate GOP candidates or not following through on his hush money payments. Bragg has evidence, according to SOF, that payments weren't simply related to protecting his family from finding out. Bragg has evidence it was about defrauding voters, which is illegal (Bragg hasn't specified what the underlying crime is the false business records covered but that's at least one of them right there).

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    This penchant for producing unforced errors constantly is all the more reason Trump will never get 70 million votes again. But I love watching Republicans and their handmaidens trying to figure that out without hurting any MAGA feelings.

    As for Ron his personal vendetta with his Wedding Venue is going to ruin his career.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    That would be the same Jorge Mastival who like Trump is also facing into criminal charges, assault and battery in his case. The UFCs biggest star is a sportman who has faced more than one allegation of rape from women on this very island as well as beating the sh1t out of one of them and throwing another overboard his yacht. Like Trump he is also big fan of Putin, a man who uses rape as a tool of war. And at the UFC event Trump was sitting beside convicted rapist Mike Tyson but thats fine because he's not a Mexican rapist, American rapists are just dandy by Trump, who Trump himself soon begins a defamation trial over his own rape of Jean Carroll.

    You kind of begin to see a pattern here, Trump is perfectly happy hanging with criminals, they're his people and he is one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,303 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    DeSantis would be a terrible nominee. He has gone all in on core culture war topics, which most voters either disagree with him or don't care about. He also shrivels any time he is put under any kind of scrutiny - why nearly every press appearance, even doing his job as governor, is done in front of a loyal cheering audience.

    Overall, he is smarter than Trump but doesn't have a smidgen of Trump's charisma or media savviness. Trump would mop the floor with him with or without his legal issues



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Similar "policy" held by the national party here, who have verified ties to different neo nazi groups and fools like Stephen Yaxley-Lennon who have called for volience against Irish people despite his mother being Irish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,986 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    He also appears to be an unprincipled flip-flopper who believes in little beyond his own advancement

    Such candidates can go from hero to zero very quickly as they don't really have a secure national base...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Republicans caught by NYT report coordinating to use powers of congress to interfere with Trump’s legal cases on behalf of Trump’s legal defense team.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Perfectly normal, nothing to see here from the 'billionaire'

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/us/politics/trump-campaign-fec-filing.html



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The biggest reason he's getting in trouble is that he's a cheap con-man.

    Instead of paying her off out of his own pocket and "keeping Schtum" as it were, he tried to get his company to pay for it and hide it as a variety of fake business expenses.

    A "Billionaire" that couldn't afford to pay $130k out of his own pocket for something he (allegedly) did...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Ive been wondering about the method of payment and if Cohen was buying himself an insurance policy to trade with in the event of getting caught which has has been. Last weeks Statement of Facts said that initially Trump wanted to pay the $130k in cash but Cohen said no I'll set up a shell company and they would route the money through that which then leaves the paper trail.

    Its bizarre that he would knowingly run a criminal enterprise and then do it in such a way to leave a paper trail. Is Cohen that stupid or was he just making sure that if they ever got caught that there was a direct paper trail straight to Trump (who personally signed the cheques to Cohen for his 'retainer').

    Because if this was all done in cash you just know Trump would have denied any knowledge of it. Trump would have thrown Cohen under the bus and Cohen would have spent way longer in prison than the 18 months he did if he had nothing to trade with. Maybe Cohen thought of that and said fcuk it if Im going down for this Im making sure he is too. Its either that or Cohen isnt the brightest which Im leaning towards. Like it wouldnt have been difficult to lay their hands on $130k cash but it was Cohens idea to do the shell company route which ultimately got them both caught.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    All those things likely played a part , but even if they had "paid in cash", you just know that the cash would have come from the Company and not from Trumps personal accounts , because like everything else he considers it all to be "his" and has no understanding of the concept of separation of accounts and funds etc.

    He has always used his businesses (and charities) as personal ATMs so I think he would have fallen foul of business accounting laws at the very least.

    However , given Cohens habit of recording everything I suspect that at the very least he had enough street smarts to always have some kind of proof of all the things that Trump was getting him to do if only to make sure that he actually got paid for them .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Even at 40% tax rate, I find it hilarious that a 'billionaire' is facing these charges and possible time because he didn't want to spend €52 grand in tax. Fitting for trump



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,923 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Exactly - For an actual Billionaire , 130k would be like an average person having to spend maybe $100 or the like out of pocket on something.

    That he tried to fiddle the books to get the company to pay it just tells you everything you need to know about his mentality and his actual wealth and real-time access to cash.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,976 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




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